Hey gang. I know I haven't posted in what seems like eons, but I still read lots of what you guys say. And now I need a little help with a minor problem and you are the group to ask. If you remember, I built a New Orleans model and a Cheyenne model using lots of the reasearch you did on the original models. And right now, I am trying to build a Springfield model. What I need help with is the pod on top of the model (the one that we know for sure is there). I need a good schematic of the pod and how it attaches to the rest of the ship. I'm going for a more angular version, so not too much curvy stuff. I know that's what Bernd has in his take on it, but am thinking in the plastic modeler mode here. ("I need a few quick models, don't have time to spend building lots of fancy parts, here, this till do." sort of thought.) So if you want to help out, I'd appreciate it. And if you don't remember my models, you can go to my homepage below. Thanks in advance guys.
[ February 28, 2002, 16:08: Message edited by: Fructose ]
Posted by Bernd (Member # 6) on :
I heard that it is supposed to be a cockpit of a Star Wars model, but I'm not familiar with them.
Posted by Vogon Poet (Member # 393) on :
Jeepers, B, what are you doing up at this hour? 8)
Posted by Fructose (Member # 309) on :
It looks like it's supposed to be swing open or something with those two prongs in the front. I would assume it would be a toy's cockpit or something like that. I don't know of any model that would be that big for Star Wars. Hmmm... interesting...
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
SW cockpit, eh? The front end of an X-wing is sort of that shape...
Posted by The_Tom (Member # 38) on :
Holy feckin' Christ. Those are perfect reconstructions of the Cheyenne and the New Orleans. Wow. Well done!
Posted by Fructose (Member # 309) on :
Thanks, but from what I understand, Miarecki used the 1/1/400 scale Enterprise-D model to make his Kyushu. I used 1/2500 scale parts. It turned out pretty good though. I looked at an old X-wing model cockpit, and it's not right. Too short, too narrow. I'm still looking through stuff though. Maybe I could ask Miarecki what he used if he remembers. I just hope he'll answer me this time. Last time I tried asking him something he was pretty short about it. But that's when he got flooded with questions about 359, so maybe he'll be in a better mood.
Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :
I certainly remember you Fruccy... I said last time your models (partic. the Centaur and the New Orleans were fantastic, I that they should use your ships on screen! I reckon they'd stand up pretty well.)
Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :
Do you know Fructose, this looks like one cool little ship... It fits the "Trieste" very well as per Data's comment in 11001001 "Too, small. Too, slow". What was the class of the Trieste?
Posted by Aban Rune (Member # 226) on :
Great model work!! I bookmarked your site for future reference use (one never knows when one will get around to doing another painting of a starship).
Could someone post an image of the pod we're looking for? I know I've seen this ship but I don't have an image handy.
Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :
This is a good pic Fructose... Maybe you could sit them all like they are heading in the same direction - towards the camera and then someone could put a warp effect in!
The Y-wing (again, this may be too narrow): Y-Wing
And this is the A-Wing fighter. Seems more possible: A-Wing
The only problem is that I don't think the A-Wing has been released as a model. Another one could be the imperial shuttle (nose section). There's a better chance this one made it to stores as a model kit: Lambda-class Posted by Timo (Member # 245) on :
The picture of the one and only Springfield is on this page, but I won't post the direct link, in order to protect the guilty and frustrate the innocent.
I can't figure out which SW part the pod is supposed to be, either. The closest matches would be the upper surface of an Y-wing forward hull (sans the cockpit canopy) or the bow of the Lambda shuttle, but neither is a perfect match, and both would require patching up a few large holes.
Perhaps some inaccurate toy reproduction of the Lambda...? Why would Miarecki smash up a big SW toy, though? It seems unlikely he would have had spare ones in the workshop corner. In any case, a toy Lambda would explain the forward "hinges" nicely.
Or is the upper pod in fact an Okuda addition? Where did the "SW part" rumor really originate? Okuda wasn't very specific about the Chekov in any of his posts, and made no mention of the pod.
Timo Saloniemi
Posted by Bernd (Member # 6) on :
quote:Jeepers, B, what are you doing up at this hour? 8)
That's what happens when you're unemployed for too long...
Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :
Just looking at Bernd's page - that underslung pod... the front of it looks like the Galaxy class era side profiles of the deflector dish 'lip'/area... and considering there is no where else for the Deflector??
[ March 01, 2002, 07:23: Message edited by: AndrewR ]
Posted by Shik (Member # 343) on :
Erick...that Nebula...is that the shitty WARP conversion kit?
Posted by Fructose (Member # 309) on :
Yeah, it is the WARP conversion. But I got the Sutherland kit with the primary hull. It required a little work to get it to look like that. And I am not sure about the pod either. I looked at the Y-wing too, and it may be that, but it needs a lot added to it. I'm not sure about the Lambda one yet, but I'll check it out. And as for the family pic, I'm probably going to get a digital camera soon, so I will take some more pics. (The family has also grown a little too.)
Posted by Fructose (Member # 309) on :
Well, I asked Ed Miarecki and he said he that the Paramount Art Department added the part and he didn't know what part they used. It was worth a shot. Would someone out there that has the rigth e-mail address be willing to ask someone who may know? It would help me out a bunch.
Posted by Dukhat (Member # 341) on :
Erick,
Miarecki's original version of the Chekov had no upper "pod/ramp" thingy, only the lower engineering pod w/ pylons attached. He said he wanted it to be the TNG version of the Grissom. When Okuda got ahold of the model, he took off the lower pod & put on the upper. However, I don't know what he used, but it might have been another piece from the submarine kits he used on the Buran. If you want to contact Okuda, I'll give you his email address in a PM.
Posted by Fructose (Member # 309) on :
Well, I wrote Mike Okuda, and here's what he said:
quote: Thanks for the note. I remember gluing on that particular piece. It was something that was in our plastic parts box, not something that was custom-fabricated for the model. If I had to guess, I would suspect that it came from a Robotix building toy set, since I had a couple of those in the art department at the time, and used them for parts on a lot of things.
So, does anyone have a Robotix toy set, or know someone who does? It may help out my little quest here.
Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :
I'm going to be no help here at all, and just say "WOW THEY RESPONDED!" cool. So Miarecki's pod wasn't included in the final shot episode? Would have been a nice 'reference' to the Oberth. Oh well.
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
Honestly, I like it better w/ the upper pod and w/o the lower.
Posted by Fructose (Member # 309) on :
Me too, and that's how I'm building my model.
Posted by Timo (Member # 245) on :
I think the lower pod could be included as an "optional extra". You know, a sensor platform to turn the thing in to an SWACS version or something.
The ship looks like an upside-down Miranda to begin with, so the optional roll bar would complete that illusion. Alternately, you could include some New Orleans-type torpedo pods as accessories to your kit, to be attached instead of the ventral roll bar... Kits with lots of accessories sell better, you know.
Timo Saloniemi
Posted by Fructose (Member # 309) on :
True, but I'm not going to sell anything. I just build it for myself.
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I looked at an old X-wing model cockpit, and it's not right. Too short, too narrow. I'm still looking through stuff though. Maybe I could ask Miarecki what he used if he remembers. I just hope he'll answer me this time. Last time I tried asking him something he was pretty short about it. But that's when he got flooded with questions about 359, so maybe he'll be in a better mood.
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