Its just occured to me that could it be possible for two Enterprise prototypes to be built? Obviously the humans knew of the Vulcan ships that had the same loom as the Enterprise from ST1, and then we have the NX class. The ST1 Enteprrise could have been copied from the Vulcans since at that time Vulcans had superior technology than the humans. I mean there could have been a few warp propulsion races with one of the NX class and the other 'Ring Ship' class. Perhaps the Ring Ship Enterprise was failure or something else.
Posted by Cpt. Kyle Amasov (Member # 742) on :
Or the ringed ship was a vulcan ship, maybe the successor of the NX-01, named for the ship after it's tragical destruction 2158.
OK, maybe not. But the ship shares some similarities with vulcan designs, so it could have been some sort of testbed, what you suggested. Something that came between FC and Broken Bow. I could imagine it was some sort of exchange program between the Vulcans and Earth, they gave us the ship and we gave them good music. After seeing what you can do with a fast ship, Earth decided to build their own 'Hot Rod'. Without Vulcan help. Of course we didn't want to look like loosers compared with the Vulcans. So we tried on our own. And The ring-ship became a test vehicle for prototype technologies. A fast ship to test how systems work at high velocity conditions.
Or it was the original design for NX01, changed after the Vulcans protested and accused us of violation of copyrights. Posted by Boris (Member # 713) on :
Well, it's obviously more important than the NX-01, given that it was favored in the TMP lounge.
(I know...the displays change every week...the Ent-D observation lounge display is faulty...only Sisko doesn't care about pre-Fed Starfleet and calls Kirk's Enterprise the first Enterprise...the holodeck computers are programmed to assume that everyone wants a post-2161 Enterprise...)
Boris
[ March 16, 2002, 13:14: Message edited by: Boris ]
Posted by David Templar (Member # 580) on :
I would think it came later, those Vulcans in Enterprise wouldn't give you their name if they could get away with it. An entire starship, complete with Vulcan knowledge on subspace geometry and so on, would seem out of the question for before Enterprise. And since it was mentioned that humans and Vulcans never really served onboard the same ship, it's unlikely that it was a Vulcan ship with a partially human crew.
Posted by Boris (Member # 713) on :
Plus, Archer doesn't have it on display in his quarters. Were it an important testbed (it must be important because we see it in TMP) it would've made sense to include it.
It could be the ship that broke the Warp 5 speed limit -- after all, the huge, awkward engines suggest that it wasn't built for fun, but rather a specific purpose.
Posted by The_Tom (Member # 38) on :
BuT EVERYWON NOSe IIT WS A L!NR. DECLARASHUN CALSS!
Posted by Cpt. Kyle Amasov (Member # 742) on :
^^^^
Everything all right? You seem to be a bit confused right now.
Where does the Declaration-class come from? I had a source some time ago calling it a 'Jeffries-class', which seems to be more fitting, IMO.
What if the temporal war leads to the the extinction of the entire Enterprise-timeline? Maybe everything from First Contact to the foundation of the Federation ceases to exist and is replaced with the timeline we know, the romulan wars, the ringed ship Enterprise, klingons without latex-heads, the UESPA, no forcefields, tractor beams, cloaking devices, replicators, transportes, holodecks and forcefields, and NO GODDAMN D7S!!! Sorry. What if the NX-01 sacrifices herself to prevent an invasion of the evil Borg from the 31st century, which came back through time with Admiral Janeways advanced technology to destroy the Federation once again. And they destroyed the timeline to restore a better one. Would make a good 7th-season B&B-style-two-parter and continuity-fans happy to get their Roddenberry-universe back. Posted by U//Magnus (Member # 239) on :
I'm confused too. Where are we talking about the USS Enterprise, NCC-1701-U?
Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :
Yeah, maybe the presence of the E-E crew at First Contact caused this change in the time line... maybe before Cochrane's "glimpse" of the E-E shiloetted against the sun, the Warp 5 project might have ended up with the ring ship. Also Lily onboard the E-E might have exposed her to too many technologies... she got to see all the Enterprises ahead of her.
Posted by Jb (Member # 724) on :
I think Declaration class comes from The Spaceflight Chronology, thought I might be wrong. It's happened before... Regards Jb
Posted by Fedaykin Supastar (Member # 704) on :
i sort of agree with Capt. Amasov's theory that a temporal event changed the timeline eliminating Archer's timeline, but in doing so, Archer and Crew's sacrifice allowed the human race to continue as we know it....that would eliminate most problems that we might have wit continuity.
I proposed a similar plan before ENT came out...but nobody thawt it would be possible - of course we all know that my post is the result of a madman's delusions but who cares???
Buzz
Posted by Matrix (Member # 376) on :
Oh well, its gone from a simple theory on how another 22nd Eterprise could exist to a Enterprise bashing post.
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