(I know it always starts with a small question, but this is a really small question, I promise...)
What's the registry (and name? God no, that would be too much...!) of the Excelsior-class-ship seen at Utopia during 'Relativity'? I know the others (Akira and Galaxy) were probably the good old Enterprise-Ds and Thunderchilds, but this one seems to have another registry than anything seen before.
Here's a picture, from stinsv, they also have larger versions. I think that's the one from the episode and not the image done for the SotF-calendar, allthough I could be wrong since there's also a large-resolution shot.
The ship's registry appears to be (judging by this shot) 4xx81.
Posted by The359 (Member # 37) on :
There is no answer. Everyone either believes it is the USS Fredrickson NCC-42111 or an unnamed ship NCC-4281.
I go with 42111.
Posted by Cpt. Kyle Amasov (Member # 742) on :
I thought it's Fredrickson, but that's definitely not 42111. That's a CGI, so does no one know who labeled it? Or if the ship appeared another time? Or what? Or nothing? Strange...
Posted by The Mighty Monkey of Mim (Member # 646) on :
It is NCC-42111. Pic is deceptive. Mojo (or Bonchune)confirmed it.
-MMoM Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
"...another registry than anything seen before."
It was seen before. The Frederickson originally appeared in DS9. It was being towed away from the aftermath of a battle in one of the War Arc eps.
Posted by Veers (Member # 661) on :
The Frederickson was seen in "A Time to Stand" in that big, damaged fleet at the beginning of the episode.
Posted by Cpt. Kyle Amasov (Member # 742) on :
The Fredrickson, yes, but not the 4x81/4xx81-version. Besides that, the Fredrickson didn't look CGI. Just my opinion. It was not the same CG vessel originally used for 'Flashback', right? It looked different.
Posted by CaptainMike (Member # 709) on :
correcct me if im wrong (heh), but wasnt the Flashback Excelsior a practical model, not CGI? I seem to remember seeing pictures of a new, shorter Excelsior model that appeared in Flashback (since the original was converted to E-B refit, and they needed one that looked more like the original Excelsior.
Posted by The Red Admiral (Member # 602) on :
It's definitely not the Frederickson, because if you look closely at the U.S.S. ***** on the hull, it's only very short, perhaps four or five words.
I don't know if I agree that the registry is 42111. It looks to me like NCC 4861, being four digits
Posted by Dat (Member # 302) on :
Again, I've got to agree with Mim (rare occasion). It's Fredrickson NCC-42111, confirmed by Mojo as he was part of the team who did this CGI segment. It looks funny because they probably used as smaller sized font than they're supposed to or it's a result of the texture mapping or angle or whatever.
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
The reason it doesn't look like five digits is because the 1's are so skinny. "11" ends up being about the same width as '8' or '6' or whatever wide digit you want to use.
And the reason the first two ones look like they're a singl digit is because on of the hull lines runs right in between them. When everything is all blurred the way it is, the digits and the hull line merge together and look like just a single number-like blob.
Posted by CaptainMike (Member # 709) on :
[ April 07, 2002, 15:55: Message edited by: CaptainMike ]
Posted by Dax (Member # 191) on :
Like CaptainMike said, I believe DS9's Fredrickson was a relabel of the "Flashback" physical model. It seems strange that Mojo would bother transfering the name and rego to a CGI model.
BTW, I think the Excelsior seen closeup in the "Favor the Bold" fleet is the Fredrickson. The rego can be seen on the hull, although my tape is not high enough quality to be sure.
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
Mike: I hate to say this, but that doesn't really help. You've got the wrong font. The correct font has smaller diagonals on the 1's, making them skinnier.
Posted by Vogon Poet (Member # 393) on :
Oh, FUCK. Every time I rebuild my PC I forget to save the fonts. What font is the proper one, and where can I get it?
Posted by Cpt. Kyle Amasov (Member # 742) on :
One thingn is confusing: This one is a CGI; If the starship Excelsior from 'Flashback' is CGI (I thought it was exactly the same ship used later for various DS9-episodes), it could be the ship. But if the Flashback-ship is a physical model, that would mean this can't be the starship Fredrickson. I am sure the fleet shots done for 'Sacrifice of Angels' and 'Favor the Bold' were completely CGI (I think the Companion says so), while the former episodes combine both techniques. And I'm nearly 100% sure the Excelsior from 'Favor the Bold' (the ship passing closely below the camera) was the same model as Excelsior. And when you look at the registry, it appears to be 2000, not some weird 5-digit-number.
I have to search for my SotL-calendar, but what was the registry of that Excelsior? I think it was readable.
And another question: What does the Excelsior do at UP? I mean - the Galaxys and Akiras and everything seem to be still in production, just like Voyager, but they don't build another Excelsior, and they don't assign a 42xxx-number. Same for the four-digit-number, btw. So, what do they do there?
Posted by The Mighty Monkey of Mim (Member # 646) on :
The Fredrickson was CGI. The ship in the pic is the Fredrickson.
That's all.
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Posted by Peregrinus (Member # 504) on :
Kyle...
First off, if regos are any indication, Akiras are older ships. As for what all of them are doing there, I'd direct your attention to a little work called "Star Trek: The Motion Picture". Refits, repairs, and upgrades are all good reasons to see a ship in dock.
--Jonah
Posted by OnToMars (Member # 621) on :
Way to go Pereginus!
Way to cite canon!
Posted by Dax (Member # 191) on :
The "Flashback" Excelsior was a 4ft long physical model built by Greg Jein for the episode.
I'm pretty sure that same model was used to represent the USS Malinche, and later the Fredrickson. And yes, the "Sacrifice of Angels" fleet was likely all CGI, but I'm talking about the bits made for "Favor the Bold" - still featuring some motion control. Here's the Excelsior from "FtB", and here.
[ April 08, 2002, 21:09: Message edited by: Dax ]
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
Say, did we ever figure out what that registry says?
Posted by Guardian 2000 (Member # 743) on :
(More detailed map: To the left of the main Excelsior on the bottom is a Galaxy or Nebula saucer. In front of that, one can see an Akira, and what looks very much like a Sovereign saucer.)
What could it be besides that? I can't think of anything off-hand that would have such a shape.
Posted by The_Tom (Member # 38) on :
I think that little clumplet is two Galaxies, a Miranda, and a Steamrunner, in the midst of a point perspective-induced orgy.
Posted by Cpt. Kyle Amasov (Member # 742) on :
Steamrunner, yes. Could be the strange positioning of lights for that scene, but look at the Galaxy class next to it. It appears to have a second saucer kitbashed on top of it, but it's just the shadow of the main phaser. I think there is another one later; I didn't know what it was, but I fugured out it was just the front view of an Akira. Anyhow, it looked strange.
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
I see two Galaxies, an Akira, and a Steamrunner.
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