Hello, while I was lurking and waiting for my registration to come through, I had a delve through the old threads, but couldn't find anything on this subject, so I hope this hasn't been beaten to death already.
During DS9's "What You Leave Behind", one of the new shots from the battle shows the Defiant doing a barrel roll and you see this;
It looks to me like the Galaxy Class ship doesn't have a normal neck, I noticed it the first time I saw the episode, but never saw it mentioned on any of the main techy Trek sites. Is this new? Am I just looking at big shadow, hoping to have discovered something new?
It can't be the underside of a darknecked GCS since it barely has a neck at all. Doesn't look very structurally sound either.
Here are some more shots that might show it more clearly.
Posted by EdipisReks (Member # 510) on :
looks normal to me. you are seeing shadows case by the secondary hull. and what do you mean by the darknecks "barely having a neck"? they have the same neck as any other Galaxy class ship.
Posted by Dr. Phlox (Member # 878) on :
I meant this one doesn't seem to, I'm sure that's not a shadow. Maybe you have to see the actual clip to notice, or I could be wrong.
Posted by EdipisReks (Member # 510) on :
it's a shadow. i checked my video (it's a divx, actually, but close enough), and to me, it looks exactly like a shadow. you can see the sides of the neck going into the darkness. are you suggesting that the neck just gradually vaporizes to nothing on the sides?
Posted by Dr. Phlox (Member # 878) on :
No. I'm suggesting the back of the neck is slight a different shape though. I tried making the image brighter to show it more clearly. These clips are from a mpeg, so they're not very good quality(I do have the VHS though, I'm using this for caps though).
I'm starting to think it might be a shadow too, but the top of the stardrive section doesn't look right to me. I don't think there would that dark a shadow.
Posted by EdipisReks (Member # 510) on :
the ship is the same one they were using for the rest of DS9. there is no difference.
Posted by Dat (Member # 302) on :
Looks like the same Galaxy to me. I really don't think a new model would have been created for the final episode with a good possibility it would never be used again. And I think Foundation was doing the CGI for this episode and at the time wasn't sure if a Galaxy would ever be used on Voyager again. So they wouldn't have bothered with a new model.
Posted by Dr. Phlox (Member # 878) on :
Oh well, it was nice theory. Actually it wasn't nice, but it was still a theory.
Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :
I don't remember this scene at all, though. Neat!
Posted by Vice-Admiral Michael T. Colorge (Member # 144) on :
This was part of a very fast scene where Sisko makes Nog do the manuver in the heat of the battle. By this time the Defiant was nearly out of quantum torpedoes.
Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :
It's the shadow cast by the 'rounder' bits of the secondary hull. The light source is from BELOW/FRONT of the Galaxy, thus during these pics, the bottom of the Defiant would be in light (and the top dark (see pic) - as it is doing it's barrel roll. Just one thing though, if the Deffie does a barrel roll to avoid phaser, disruptor or torpedo fire - and they are all battling away in close quarters like they are seemingly in every battle, what happens to the torps etc that miss the barrel-rolling defiant, as in this picture they'd probably strike that Galaxy!!
Posted by EdipisReks (Member # 510) on :
i'm sure that GCS put more energy to shields when they saw Benjamin "Friendly Fire" Sisko coming towards them.
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I'm suggesting the back of the neck is slight a different shape though. I tried making the image brighter to show it more clearly. These clips are from a mpeg, so they're not very good quality(I do have the VHS though, I'm using this for caps though). 
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