(When I bought the HD, I made my wife a solemn promise that we would no longer go to theatres, but would wait to rent DVD's).
So now I know what the shooting was about. My thoughts:
1. Enjoyment: I liked it. Holes... yes, but overall a better-than-average Trek flick.
2. Changes to the E: -Deck 29 - never happened. I've heard a lot about this - and even some discussion about how the Engineering hull was 'fatter'. I couldn't see it. -I did indeed see the two new aft-firing torpedo launchers (which someone aptly named 'pom-pom launchers' - but besides that and the sleeker fairing on the main hangar's sides, I noted few obvious differences. I did think I saw one new torp launcher just a few decks below (and fore) of the bridge - just a tube snout similar to that above the Cousteau. But I saw no sign of the oft-mentioned other forward-firing tube lower down and forward of that. I freeze-framed and slow-framed, and saw no sign of it. Has anyone a good capture of it? - Out of torpedoes: Utter nonsense, of course. With at least 7 launchers, that ship has to have upwards of 200 torpedoes. I didn't keep track - but doubt that I saw more than 20 fired. The director wanted a reason why the 'dead-in-space' E couldn't obliterate the Scimitar - and he chose the wrong reason. A much better comment by Data would have been: "All torpedo launchers have been damaged or destroyed." After all, we heard Shinzon order the point-targeting of E's weapons systems. Where the hell was Okuda???!!!
Posted by Harry (Member # 265) on :
I must say, that after seeing the whole thing, it is enjoyable. There are a few things (the buggy race, B4) that could've been left out, but overall, it was nice to see the gang back.
A little more 'off-duty' dialogue would have been nice..
Posted by Treknophyle (Member # 509) on :
My wife - although a film buff - is by no means a Trekker - and as such I use her as a touchstone on the relative quality of Trek films as films.
Her first comment was: "Why did the aliens have almost identical dune buggys?"
My first one was: "Wheels, Mr. Spock.".
I thought Kirk made it fairly clear that wheels were obsolete.
Posted by Guardian 2000 (Member # 743) on :
quote:Originally posted by Harry: I must say, that after seeing the whole thing, it is enjoyable. There are a few things (the buggy race, B4) that could've been left out, but overall, it was nice to see the gang back.
You know what would've improved the film a thousand-fold? Have those buggy-guys tear off their "ugly alien" masks showing their Reman "ugly alien" masks underneath, and say "Think they bought it?"
Posted by Ultra Magnus (Member # 239) on :
If you want to have scene #34 from the Hackneyed Cliche handbook.
Posted by MinutiaeMan (Member # 444) on :
Well, given a choice between Hackneyed Cliche or Incredible Coincidence, I'd take the cliche any day. Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :
I put it down to them using comparable tech to the people on the planet - they were a non-warp civilisation weren't they?
Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :
What about when Riker went down to battle The Viceroy... was that on deck 29? Anyway it was 20 something and they dropped like 3 or 4 decks during the battle and then The Viceroy plummeted into a Death-Star-like abyss. That would have added up to like deck 40 I think...
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
quote:Originally posted by Guardian 2000:
quote:Originally posted by Harry: I must say, that after seeing the whole thing, it is enjoyable. There are a few things (the buggy race, B4) that could've been left out, but overall, it was nice to see the gang back.
You know what would've improved the film a thousand-fold? Have those buggy-guys tear off their "ugly alien" masks showing their Reman "ugly alien" masks underneath, and say "Think they bought it?"
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