I know that Kirk's Quarters in the Refit, are on D-deck, Spock's Quarters are on C-deck (ST-III), and in ST-II, it's implied that Saviik and McCoy's quarters might also be on C-deck (in ST-II, after Kirk and Saviic get on, on D-deck, they go up and then Saviic gets off and and McCoy gets on, then they go to the Bridge). I'm thinking that Admiral Kirk's D-deck quarters are a VIP suite, since Decker is Captain in TMP, then Spock is captain in ST-II/III. Does V or VI tell us where his quarters are? I'm wondering if Kirk's quarters in VI are different from his quarters in TMP, because he's not in the VIP suite any more.
Anybody have a clue? There aren't any clues as to where the bunks seen in ST-VI are, either.. is there? I need to re-watch VI, since there was so much signage all over the place, it's easy to miss one.
Posted by Dat (Member # 302) on :
Kirk's quarters have always been on E Deck (Deck 5). On the Excelsior, Sulu's quarters were on Deck 3.
Posted by Mark Nguyen (Member # 469) on :
That's a mighty long trip Kirk and Saavik took up one deck! Even without the extended hold... They must have taken the long way around.
Mark
Posted by Aban Rune (Member # 226) on :
Maybe the lift had to travel vertically for a bit along the curvature of the saucer before turning to go horizontally up a deck.
Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :
Horizontally up?
But yeah, they could be traveling from one end of the saucer to the other.
Posted by Aban Rune (Member # 226) on :
Shoot. I got my vertical and horizontal mixed up again. Maybe the lift travelled horizontally along the same deck before going up a deck vertically.
Doy.
Posted by Mark Nguyen (Member # 469) on :
Thought about that... But if you think about it, and more importantly look at any of the blueprints over the years, neither D nor C deck are really that big.
Mark
Posted by TheWoozle (Member # 929) on :
That brings up another nagging question.. wouldn't they have a horrid wait for the turbolift, with only one shaft going up and down the dorsal? Perhaps the 'hold' shunted them to the side and they had to wait for traffic to clear...
Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :
The incredibly helpful but not overly perceptive lift AI switched into extra-slow romantic liaison mode?
Posted by TheWoozle (Member # 929) on :
Mirror-Universe Kirk has a distintegrator beam... makes sense.
I realized another conclusion.. since Kirk was a visiting VIP in TMP through ST-III, he's not staying in a standard Officer's Quarters. Captain Spock's quarters are on C-deck, so that would imply that the VIP suites are on D-deck and we've seen them. Heh, another part of the ship revealed!
Posted by Vice-Admiral Michael T. Colorge (Member # 144) on :
TheWoozle
quote:Mirror-Universe Kirk has a distintegrator beam... makes sense.
What does that have to do with the topic?
Posted by HerbShrump (Member # 1230) on :
It makes travel faster. If you disintegrate them, they can't hold up the d@mn elevator.
Posted by Lee (Member # 393) on :
Let's hope Ken Livingstone doesn't get wind of it. The Congestion Charge is bad enough. . .
Posted by Bones McCoy (Member # 1480) on :
I always thought Kirk got stationed on the "easy-to-overhear-incriminating-monologue" deck?
Posted by Timo (Member # 245) on :
D-deck VIP quarters for Kirk would make sense, in terms of a) Kirk being a VIP and b) D-deck being appreciably close to supposed VIP facilities (the aft-facing lounge).
However, C-deck for Spock makes a bit less sense, since the quarters we see in the graphic that Chekov points at are on the outer rim of the saucer (more specifically, they are where FJ put the brig complex). I tend to think that Chekov's funny accent is to blame here: Spock may actually resided on deck E or deck G in the movie. (In fact, deck F would be the correct location as per the graphics, but it's less likely that Chekov could mangle the pronunciation of that letter into "C".)
OTOH, having the captain berthed close to the bridge would probably be prudent. Even if his or her official quarters are on deck 5 or something, Spock would no doubt have appropriated a deck 3 broom closet and converted it into his quarters, as this was the logical thing to do...
As for McCoy, his door plate does suggest deck 3 quarters in TOS. So all in all, having all the top officers (Kirk, McCoy, Spock in TOS; Decker/Spock, McCoy and the ghosts of the first officers past, present and future in TFS) berthed on C deck would be a satisfactory solution, even if it means that there's no room for anything else on that deck.
I forget: what is the reason that people generally claim Kirk was berthed on deck 5 in TOS? Was there something specific in "Journey to Babel"? Or do people just go by the fact that Kirk strolled through that deck while on his way to his quarters?
Timo Saloniemi
Posted by Mark Nguyen (Member # 469) on :
There are a number of fandom sources that've suggested that the captain's cabin was ALWAYS on E-deck, traditionally so. Dunno how much practical sense that'd make fleetwide. Mind you, it COULD settle the undying Defiant deck count debate...
Sisko: Hey, cool motherfucking ship we have here. Where's my pad? Dax: Deck one, Benjamin. Right off the bridge. Sisko: You know, KIRK had his cabin on Deck five, where ALL Starfleet ships have theirs. I'll move mine down there. Dax: Sir, we only have four decks. Sisko: Shut your mouth. Get O'Brien to build a new deck and put my quarters on it. Dax: But we'll never get Starfleet approv- Sisko: Then don't fucking TELL anyone, bitch.
Mark
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
So....Sisko sounds like Samuel Jackon from Pulp Fiction to you?
quote:Originally posted by Mark Nguyen: That's a mighty long trip Kirk and Saavik took up one deck! Even without the extended hold... They must have taken the long way around.
Mark
Well, mabye it was the STV Enterprise with 76 decks....
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
You know Sisko's wallet says "bad motherfucker" on it.
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
That should be on the Defiant's dedication plaque.
Besides, we all know his wallet says "Joshua Bell".
Posted by Joshua Bell (Member # 327) on :
In the 24th Century, my name is synonymous with "bad ass motherfucker". This is good to know on Monday - it sets a high bar for the rest of the week.
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
Well, it also implies that you'll be unemployable and homeless, so keep an eye on your finances, pallie.
Posted by Joshua Bell (Member # 327) on :
Ah, you're thinking Gabriel Bell, perhaps?
And here I thought you had a special place in your heart for little ol' me.
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
Hmmm....nope. I really think your destiny is to become unemployable and homeless. Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
Well, so was Jesus, and look where it got him.
Oh, wait. Falsely accused, railroaded in court, and executed. Right.
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
Plus, he never got laid.
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
But hey, you remember his name. Lets see who recalls Brad Pitt in 2000 years.
Still, them Romans sure knew how to kill someone, didn't they? I wonder if I could do that with a cockroach and popcicle sticks.....kinda as an object lesson. A small diorama in front of my apartment building, if you will.
Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :
quote:Originally posted by Jason Abbadon: But hey, you remember his name. Lets see who recalls Brad Pitt in 2000 years.
Oh dear, that puts a new spin on "Ocean's 12" doesn't it? Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
Well, half the people that saw Ocean's 11 have no clue who Frank Sinatra or Dean Martin were so...
Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :
Good thing too, as their acting was terrible.
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
As though acting ability and popularity have anything to do with each other.
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