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Posted by Laz1701 on :
 
Here's the Diogenes class transport/tug, a pre-TOS forerunner to the Ptolemy class:



And here's the Liberty class, a pre-TOS cruiser and ancestor of the Constitution class:



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Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :
 
Diogenes class? Wow. Is there a USS Socrates and a USS Parmenides too?

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Posted by Elim Garak (Member # 14) on :
 
Hey, they're nice.

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Posted by Bernd (Member # 6) on :
 
Laz1701: So you're the one who created all those nifty starship graphics which are being used on hundreds of websites. I found your very website not long ago and thought this must be the origin. I wonder why no one thinks it's necessary to credit you.

Can it be I have first seen your images about 5 years ago? It was before I bought the Encyclopedia I. I learned from your images the names of the Miranda and the Oberth class, and this, along with an early fleet listing by D.J Creighton was my incentive to intensively care about starships. Thank you!

I noted you have updated the Freedom, Niagara and New Orleans lately. It's nice to see all the ships (even the ugly ones) in a uniform style.

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Posted by Fabrux (Member # 71) on :
 
Hey, I credit Laz. My original site credited him, but when I redesigned it, somehow the crediting was lost. However, Laz sent me an email asking me to credit him and now I do. There is even a link on my main page to his site.

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Posted by Bernd (Member # 6) on :
 
So why does no one except for Fabrux credit you? As I said, I found your site occasionally.
 
Posted by Laz1701 on :
 
Actually, my website has been around for less than a year. Most of the early drawings were first featured in the Starship Encyclopedia program (for Macs only) that John T. Moltz and I made almost five years ago and originally released on AOL. Some of the ships from that program showed up on the web, and that's probably where you first saw them.


Last year, I decided to update the program, but when I decided to include many more ships than I originally intended, I decided to put the whole thing on the web instead of distributing it as a Mac-only program. Of course, putting it on the web has resulted in a mass proliferation of the ships all over the web.
 


Posted by Laz1701 on :
 
What I really find interesting and amusing is where some of my designs have ended up. For example, the Korolev featured here is based on the design I did for the Korolev almost five years ago. In fact, at that time, I came up with designs for most of the canon ships that had no actual designs. These include the Deneva, Wambundu, Andromeda, Istanbul, Surak, Merced, Mediterranean, Springfield, Yorkshire, Sequoia, Chimera, and Bradbury. All the designs featured on my site for these classes were created by me, while John T. Moltz did the designs for the Antares and Hokule'a.

Eventually, I'm going to create an index for my site which will indicate where each class and design came from. For example, there are canon ships with canon designs, canon ships with my own conjectural designs, non-canon ships from tech fandom with published designs, non-canon ships from tech fandom with my own conjectural designs, non-canon ships whose class and design were created by people on the web, and non-canon ships whose class and design were both created by me. It can get confusing.

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