Desided to deign a Constitution Variant that is somewhere between the movie refit and the original. I will be using the Phase II design and other fan ships of the era for inspiration. Currently, I'm working on a Spline drawing of the Constitution to work from.
My progress so far:
I am using Charles Casmiro's blueprits as a guide for my base Constituion
Posted by Nim the Fanciful (Member # 205) on :
Looks nice. Yes, the center part of the ship and the nacelle pylons is probably where the original and the refit differ the most.
Have you decided if you will have torpedo launchers in the "neck"?
Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :
spline?
Posted by Harry (Member # 265) on :
Common name for 2D shapes in 3D software. So, I'm assuming this going to end up 3D?
Posted by Captain Boh (Member # 1282) on :
quote:Originally posted by Nim the Fanciful: Looks nice. Yes, the center part of the ship and the nacelle pylons is probably where the original and the refit differ the most.
Have you decided if you will have torpedo launchers in the "neck"?
I think I'm going to use the round launchers from the "Blooper Show" image
quote:Originally posted by Harry: Common name for 2D shapes in 3D software. So, I'm assuming this going to end up 3D?
Not sure if I'll do a 3d model. I'm using Splines in 3dstudio Max because its the style of vector drawing I'm most famillear with.
Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :
How about blue bussard collectors?
Posted by Captain Boh (Member # 1282) on :
Update on the Constitution Nacelles: Posted by Captain Boh (Member # 1282) on :
Basic Constitution Outline nearly compleate:
1502x369 Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
Excalibur? That looks nothing like an Ambassador class starship! Posted by Captain Boh (Member # 1282) on :
Thats because its the USS Excalibur from The Ultimate Computer.
I desided since it was heavyly damaged in the episode, during their repairs they'd refit it some Posted by Captain Boh (Member # 1282) on :
Basic Constitution finished, next the detailing, then the refit
1502x369 Posted by Captain Boh (Member # 1282) on :
Just something I did for fun: Posted by Kazeite (Member # 970) on :
You are using splines in 3DMAX to produce a 2D image?
I'm sure that's not what programmers had in mind when they implemented this function.
Nevertheless, it looks very nice.
Posted by MarianLH (Member # 1102) on :
Originally posted by Kazeite:
quote: You are using splines in 3DMAX to produce a 2D image?
I'm sure that's not what programmers had in mind when they implemented this function.
Nevertheless, it looks very nice.
Hey, you use what you know how to use. I have Illustrator, Photoshop, and Freehand, but I can't produce images that good. I make little pixellated crap in a 10-year-old paint program instead.
Marian
Posted by Harry (Member # 265) on :
That's true. I tried several times to learn Freehand, as many people claim it is 'better'. But I'm so completely used to CorelDRAW, that it just doesn't work.
I've been using Corel since version 4, and you just learn how do certain things. There are only one thing I really miss: 'expanding' curves, making an equidistantly larger curve, instead of proportional scaling. If this sounds strange, it's because I really don't know what this method is properly called.
Posted by Captain Boh (Member # 1282) on :
Just needs windows now 1502x369 Posted by Captain Boh (Member # 1282) on :
Secondary Hull windows Posted by Captain Boh (Member # 1282) on :
I belive the Constitution is compleate 1502x369 Posted by Captain Boh (Member # 1282) on :
Begining on the Excalibur Sub-class 1502x369 Posted by Captain Boh (Member # 1282) on :
Update: 1502x369 Posted by Captain Boh (Member # 1282) on :
New Nacelles and Aft phasers: 1502x369 Posted by Topher (Member # 71) on :
Those are some pretty funky nacelles. Kinda look like the LN-52 SCNN units...
Posted by Captain Boh (Member # 1282) on :
and what are LN-52 SCNN units?
Posted by Captain Boh (Member # 1282) on :
Modifications to the Nacelles 1502x369 Posted by Dat (Member # 302) on :
The LN-52 SCNN units are the models of nacelles used on the Endeavo(u)r design you linked to.
Posted by MirrorCaptainMike (Member # 709) on :
i created a nice endeavour pic a while back with a corrected registry
i'm not sure who i stole the constitution pic from, masao maybe? regardless apologies, i'll draft an original one soon.
Posted by Topher (Member # 71) on :
Ooh, nice indeed. Posted by Wee Bairns (Member # 1324) on :
While I like what you're doing here, I've always disliked that warp nacelle design in general. To me, they look like they are upside-down. Still, good stuff.
Posted by Captain Boh (Member # 1282) on :
I could try flipping them. I considdered it before but never bothered trying.
Posted by Captain Boh (Member # 1282) on :
That's the ticket, laddie...
Posted by Captain Boh (Member # 1282) on :
Secondary Hull grids, windows and markings + nacelle markings
Markings are in yellow so that they arn't confused with details
1502x369 Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
A good rendering of a terrible design.
Posted by Marauth (Member # 1320) on :
Looks good, only 2 things a bit off IMO: 1. The bottom of nacelle now looks odd since you flipped it over, it seems to be pointing diagonaly up towards the rear, would look better if you straightened it out until the curve. 2. The torp launcher looks very basic but I guess that's not finished, or is it? I dunno but it does look very plain
Otherwise a very nice Endeavour variant, though I must say I quite liked the upside-down nacelles myself.
Posted by Captain Boh (Member # 1282) on :
The Torpedo launcher is supposed to be like the twin cylinder version used on the Phase II model
Posted by Marauth (Member # 1320) on :
That's cool but it don't really look much like the circular one I've seen, don't think it was the Phase II model as there wasn't a torp launcher on the Phase II model, nor a deflector dish, it was never finished IIRC. I think you mean the ship from that poster with a Phase II looking TOS Enterprise flying out of the page. The Ships of the Starfleet manual had a variant based off of that poster. But yeah it's a cool idea but it doesn't really look much like it on the schematic at the moment.
Posted by Captain Boh (Member # 1282) on :
I think the problem is the proximity to the bottom of the neck throws the shapes off. It IS kinda hard to create the image of a cylinder side on in an unshaded 2d image though.
Posted by Marauth (Member # 1320) on :
A nice big front view would alleviate that! LOL j/k I wish I could come up with something a fraction as good as that. Ah but alas I don't know squat about vector graphics.
Posted by Captain Boh (Member # 1282) on :
Well, I'm techincally cheating by using my 3D program to make 2d images Posted by Captain Boh (Member # 1282) on :
Changed the marking colour to red, since most of them ARE red
Fixed the bottom of the nacelle and added an attachment dealy
1502x369 Posted by Wee Bairns (Member # 1324) on :
I like the new revisions. It now, even more, clearly shows the design lineage... Looks good!
Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :
The nacelle is reminiscent of the undercut Oberth Nacele.
Posted by Captain Boh (Member # 1282) on :
It does look like that from the side, doesn't it!
I'll make a 3d mock-up of what I was going for though. Post it tomorrow hopefully
Posted by Captain Boh (Member # 1282) on :
here is what the nacelles look like... basicly:
Posted by The Mighty Monkey of Mim (Member # 646) on :
Having that tiny duplicate of the end of the TOS style nacelle at the aft end looks very unbalanced to me.
Posted by Kazeite (Member # 970) on :
I agree. This tiny ball at the end looks... well... silly to me. I think that you should make your nacelle end more similiar to Oberth nacelle... or slap some grills at the end Posted by Captain Boh (Member # 1282) on :
I don't know... I like it how it is. We'll see
Posted by Trimm (Member # 865) on :
I dunno, the little things don't really bother me that much, they are small enough I didn't even notice them at first
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