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Posted by Captain Boh (Member # 1282) on :
 
Well, I got the idea in my head to do some work on a TOS era Cardassian ship, but I though I'd create a logo first, since the Cardassians tend to build their ships like the logo.


This is where I am with the ship so far:


(I warn you, I'm VERY new to Illustrator)
 

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Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
 
Hmmmmm....good start.

The rocket nozzle-thing on the tail looks pretty odd.
Have you tried extending the nacelles (longer and back) along the "blades"? I think it's look more retro to not have the nacelles inboard.
You could add on turretts where the weapons emplacments on a Galor are located (blade-tips, tail) and a squared-off TOS dish to the front....

You could even incorperate some Bajoran design elements this far back: they were trading partners after all, back then.
You could make the symbol less aggressive as well: back then the military was not in control of the government.
 

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Posted by Captain Boh (Member # 1282) on :
 

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Originally posted by Jason Abbadon:
Hmmmmm....good start.

The rocket nozzle-thing on the tail looks pretty odd.
Have you tried extending the nacelles (longer and back) along the "blades"? I think it's look more retro to not have the nacelles inboard.

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You could add on turretts where the weapons emplacments on a Galor are located (blade-tips, tail)

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and a squared-off TOS dish to the front....

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You could even incorperate some Bajoran design elements this far back: they were trading partners after all, back then.
You could make the symbol less aggressive as well: back then the military was not in control of the government.

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I haven't been able to find specific information online, but around when would the military have taken over?

Thanks for the feedback
 

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Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :
 
Sometimes it is implied that Cardassia was militarized several generations prior to the then modern day. Sometimes it is implied that it occured during the childhood of various characters. (Gul O'Brien from the Picard torture episode for instance. ((GET IT??)))

At least, I seem to remember both kinds of implications, with no specific date ever given, though I think the latter references outweigh the former. I don't recall anything about them being trading partners with Bajor, though, though I suppose they could have, and the reference slipped from my memory. I don't think there's much said about either Bajoran or Cardassian life prior to the Occupation, really.

[In case Big Shot Enterprise Executives are reading this from their tastefully decorated offices: 22nd century Cardassians would sure be neat.]

Re: the ship: I think it would be neater if you deviated a bit more from the norm. Perhaps make the wings longer. Or something. I guess, aside from the color scheme, this just doesn't look different enough from a Galor, for me.
 

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Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :
 
I've been thinking, B5 got a lot of, uh, historicity by just rolling Minbari ships by ninety degrees. Perhaps a similiar design distortion would work here? Like, for instance, instead of a long ship with stubby wings, a big wing with a sort of built up head and then a narrow tail out behind?
 

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Posted by Masao (Member # 232) on :
 
Rutger Warrink has designed some nice old-style Cardie ships. Search for Warrink and Cardassian.
 

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Posted by Masao (Member # 232) on :
 
Rutger Warrink has designed some nice old-style Cardie ships. Search for Warrink and Cardassian.
 

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Posted by B.J. (Member # 858) on :
 
So, how do you double-post 16 minutes apart?

It's been a long time since I've heard Rutger's name, and he had some impressive artwork. Unfortunately, I've looked and it's near impossible to find his originals, especially since he lost interest in Trek altogether.

As for the Cardassian ship, maybe once you get some more detail in there it will look better, but right now it's not standing out for me. I wish I could give some more constructive criticism, but not many people have sucessfully tackled a new Cardassian ship. Maybe a side view (even if it's not very detailed yet) to help show us how you're making it different from the Galor?

B.J.
 

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Posted by Masao (Member # 232) on :
 

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Originally posted by B.J.:
So, how do you double-post 16 minutes apart?

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