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Posted by Aban Rune (Member # 226) on :
 
I don't think anyone's ever really discussed 24 here. I guess it might be a stretch to call it sci-fi, but I suppose if La Femme Nikita fits the criteria... And they do appear to have FTL capabilities seeing as you can get anywhere in LA in under 10 minutes.

I thought this season was better than the last two.It had a number of nice surprises, including the return of Mandy the assassin a few hours from the end of the day. They even tied her back to the assassination attempt on president Palmer at the end of Day 2.

No one got seriously tortured this season (yah, Paul did, but shocked with an electrical cord doesn't compare to getting your shoulder worked on with a power sander in season 2...) which kind of surprised me. It's sort of become the show's trademark.

The last hour I thought was very good, despite the fact that everything had gone wrong all day, then they miraculously find this little bit of data that lets them end the whole thing. But the way they dealt with Jack was a nice twist. I thought for sure he was going to be killed off this season. I'm wondering if they'll find a way to bring him back as the main character next season, or if they'll use a different character and bring him back as a guest star.
 
Posted by Veers (Member # 661) on :
 
I'm guessing next season they'll have to find Jack somewhere south of the border, where he will be masquerading as "Senor Gonzalez" with the trademark mustache, sombrero, and banjo.
 
Posted by Nim' (Member # 205) on :
 
I only remember that ep when he's racing an SUV and babbling hoarsely on a cellphone, telling HQ to have something ready for him by the time he gets to the spot, otherwise they're all up duty creek.

Oh, and his black shirt was all sweaty over the back and a bit torn. Ne h3lp, guy5?

I think the president was saying a bunch of eloquent and succinct stough in the sat-phone but his squinting stare told me he didn't even know what day it was.
 
Posted by Nim' (Member # 205) on :
 
And Jack held his pistol grip a bit strangely, I thought. Yeah, he held the gun pointed forward but he held it so high that I assumed he was holding it for the invisible midget sitting on his shoulders so it could look through the sights and shoot the other guy's midget.
 
Posted by Aban Rune (Member # 226) on :
 
I take it 24 isn't anyone's favorite show.
 
Posted by Veers (Member # 661) on :
 
Actually, it's one of my favorite shows, and I have been hooked since the beginning.
 
Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :
 
I'm not sure it qualifies as sf, though, even by my own expansive definition.

Also, I've never seen it.
 
Posted by Aban Rune (Member # 226) on :
 
OK, good then [Smile] Nim's midget had me befuzzled.
 
Posted by Nim' (Member # 205) on :
 
I like the show, followed the whole second season, I just got a fun impression when switching on the TV three nights ago and seeing Jack step out of yet another car while on the phone, then I switched off to go to bed for sleep. The Jack-impres stayed in the head.

Kiefer is kool, though he could smile now and then in the show, crack a joke, not take himself so seriously.
 
Posted by Aban Rune (Member # 226) on :
 
I think he's smiled a few times, but I don't imagine you smile very often when you're trying to save your wife and daughter, stop a killer virus, being tortured with a blowtorch, or shooting innocent co-workers in the back of the head [Smile]

The thing I miss from the first season is the big plot twists. Jack shooting Nina, then her being ok because it turns out he put her in a flack jacket. Nina being the one who killed the anaylist in the computer room. Stuff like that. There haven't been a whole lot of huge twists in the other three seasons. If they really wanted Bauer's fake death to be cool for the viewers, they would've had him been shot a few hours before the end of the show, then have him show up again in the last epsiode. You know... keep us guessing a bit.
 
Posted by Vice-Admiral Michael T. Colorge (Member # 144) on :
 
Well I didn't see it coming when Bauer basically went offically dead but walking to the sunset twist. Although I'm wondering where that kid went that CTU traded for Jack...
 
Posted by Aban Rune (Member # 226) on :
 
Sunrise [Smile]

They never really did get back to Beruz (sp?), did they? His mom got popped, but they never showed what happened to the kid.

I'm also wondering if anyone's going to bother telling his daughter Kim that he's still alive, or if Jack will just conveniently forget about her as the audience is apparently supposed to.
 
Posted by Vice-Admiral Michael T. Colorge (Member # 144) on :
 
It's best Kim doesn't know he's alive... as having her know about it will bring back Kim to the show.
 
Posted by Aban Rune (Member # 226) on :
 
It would also undoubtedly get her kidnapped again. Though, it would probably also land in her in some tight, revealing top, which isn't all bad.
 
Posted by Lee (Member # 393) on :
 
We tend to store up torrented episodes then watch them in a block, so last night we watched the final 4. Pretty much same old, same old really - with no Kim you avoided all the ridiculous scrapes she got into in season 2 which was a mercy.

No torture this year? Every 5 minutes they were summoning Richards from his lair!

For a minute when Tony phoned Michelle to say he's alive, I expected her to have taken an overdose or something, sittnig dopily in her car like that. "Oh, come off it, this is not Romeo and fucking Juliet!" I shouted at the screen.

Any word yet on a 5th season?
 
Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :
 
Yes I've read that there will be another 2 seasons.

How many more times is Jack gonna have to put up with 24+ hours and no sleep!?! [Smile]
 
Posted by Aban Rune (Member # 226) on :
 
No torture scene will ever outdo the two from Day 2. The opening scene with the oriental guy strapped to a table getting shocked with acid spilling all over his feet gave me friggin' nightmares. Then the power grinder to the shoulder and the guy packing it with a clotting agent later on in the day... I almost stopped watching the show after that.

Day 2 also featured the defense secretary getting the cardiac paddles planted on his face time and again with his feet in cold water and Jack being cut on by the psycho until his heart stopped. Day 2 was just sick, man.

Poor Heller's son wearing his headphones didn't really measure up. Neither did what's her hotness getting the stun gun to the neck.
 
Posted by Lee (Member # 393) on :
 
It would have been a nice touch if it had been Palmer's own USSS torturer (who lightly grilled the aforementioned SecDef in season 2) who'd turned up to do Jack in, but I guess Steven Culp is quite busy these days. I've seen the goon that did turn up in something else, can't remember where. . .
 
Posted by Aban Rune (Member # 226) on :
 
I'm pretty sure the eyebrowless ape who was sent to kill Jack has been seen before on the show, though.
 
Posted by Lee (Member # 393) on :
 
Epguides hasn't updated yet, I'm sure I cuold find the info somewhere else but I'm busy following the cricket.
 
Posted by Vice-Admiral Michael T. Colorge (Member # 144) on :
 
www.televisionwithoutpity.com
 
Posted by Aban Rune (Member # 226) on :
 
I was able to figure out most of the codenames he gives everyone... which were funny... but really, wouldn't it be easier to just use the character's names?
 
Posted by Lee (Member # 393) on :
 
I guess it makes it more fun for him to write. Not for anyone else to actually read, of course, but when did anyone who writes a column on the net (usually sublimating a failed journalistic or literary career) care about that?
 
Posted by Vice-Admiral Michael T. Colorge (Member # 144) on :
 
Yeah it took me a while to figure out the codenames for the characters on the site... but they were very funny once I got used to the naming scheme... She-Ho anyone? Besides, I thought that only regular folks wrote the recaps on TWP...
 


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