Well? Once again the highlight of the evening, in my opinion.
Posted by B.J. (Member # 858) on :
The Cylon centurians can't be killed by regular bullets. Only explosive rounds can do the job, and only if it's a head shot. This may or may not be a continuity error, but we did see Helo shoot and kill a centurian in the head with regular bullets, but that was only after it was blown in half by some explosives.
I was expecting Starbuck's ride (not the Raider!) to be a motorcycle of some sort. But I guess a Hummer isn't a bad second choice.
From Tigh's reaction and his accurate guess about the Cylons' tactics, I'm guessing he's seen (or head of) this kind of situation in the previous Cylon war.
B.J.
Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :
Well, Helo's rounds did leave rather large holes in things. They might very well have been explosive (although apparently of a lesser caliber). Since the Cylons were the Colonial military's main enemy, it only makes sense to issue ammunition that might have a chance at stopping them. (Then how come Apollo's sidearm wasn't loaded with any? Uh. . .)
The artistic side of Starbuck was interesting.
I'm not sure how I feel about Roslin as a religious leader, mostly because I really liked her in her more secular role. I'm not sure how to put it, but she's very. . . believable, I guess, as a leader.
Posted by Mars Needs Women (Member # 1505) on :
quote: I'm not sure how I feel about Roslin as a religious leader, mostly because I really liked her in her more secular role. I'm not sure how to put it, but she's very. . . believable, I guess, as a leader.
She's also sexier Posted by Mighty Blogger Snay (Member # 411) on :
I'd do her.
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
She certainly seems to have become more forceful since she found out she's a prophet. "I have no intention of being locked in this cell and shot like a rat in a cage; open the DOOR!"
Posted by HerbShrump (Member # 1230) on :
Oh, I think she's always had that kind of forceful attitude. Just look at how she took charge during the initial Cylon attack in the Mini Series.
How do I explain this? While I liked the Helo/Boomer subplot last seaon, the cutting to them for just a bit at a time started to annoy me. Still, I endured it because I liked the story and wanted to see where it went.
Now we have not one, but TWO planets to cut away to for bits at a time. I do hope/wish they tie up the Kobol and Caprica subplots soon.
I'd like to know where Starbuck thinks she's going to go. Yes, she got one raider working but if she thinks she's gonna steal another one and make it to the fleet... it's gonna strain my suspension of disbelief.
I do suspect that Starbuck would jump back to Kobol, though. That's the only thing that makes sense.
It's weird how Six thinks she's gonna have a baby with Baltar. I thought she meant Boomer's baby and how they'd be coming back to the fleet. An "our baby" in a bit of a metaphoric sense. She seems intent, though, that it's her baby. The only way she and Baltar could conceive is if she acquired a genetic sample from Baltar before he left on the Galactica.
Interesting Baltar having a nightmare and then waking up to a vision of Six. From one hallucination to another.
Turns out the ambush on Kobol wasn't friendly fire. At least, it doesn't appear that way now.
Kudos to Tigh this episode. He knew what was going on and was in charge. One of the few times I think we'll see him rise to a competent level of command (venting/decompressing the Galatica during the attack in the Mini Series was one and launching the fighters in "Tigh Me Up" was another).
Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :
"The only way she and Baltar could conceive is if she acquired a genetic sample from Baltar before he left on the Galactica."
Well, there are plenty of Sixes around; I'm sure she could arrange another rendezvous.
Posted by Mighty Blogger Snay (Member # 411) on :
I think the "group on Kobol" plotline is going to be resolved next episode, at least, I'm guessing from the trailer.
I'm reasonably certain Helo & Starbuck won't be returning to Galactica anytime soon, although I do think it'll happen before the end of the first half of the season.
Posted by Siegfried (Member # 29) on :
I liked the episode. It looked like Captain Kelly was close to losing it a couple times while Lt. Gaeta looked pretty composed throughout. Colonel Tigh did seem to know exactly what the Cylons were going to do; I wonder if he went through the same thing before? And if he did experience before, how did it turn out? And if it turned out badly, was that a reason he was out of the military for a while?
Posted by Mighty Blogger Snay (Member # 411) on :
Sieg,
I think Tigh mentioned that he'd been on a Battlestar when Cylons had boarded, presumeably, this didn't reflect poorly on his career as he and Adama were both early in their military careers when that war ended; you'll remember last episode's flashbacks, where Adama gets himself and Tigh back into the fleet. I think the reason he and Adama were out of the military is that with the war over, the military didn't need quite so many troops.
Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :
The implication is that this is a standard Cylon tactic, employed during their earlier war.
The downloadable commentaries tell you why Tigh and Adama weren't in the military anymore, and I don't think that counts as a spoiler or anything, but I will ask you specifically: do you want to know?
Posted by Mighty Blogger Snay (Member # 411) on :
Sure!
Posted by Siegfried (Member # 29) on :
I missed several chunks of "Scattered". The only flashback scene I saw in the episode was a drunken Tigh about to set fire to something when two MPs come to his door and inform that Major Adama had reactivated him.
Also, was it stated that the Cylons' plan was a standard tactic? I got the impression that this was specifically something Tigh had experienced. Early in the episode, Apollo made mention of the Cylons heading for the magazine locker and Gaeta and Kelly didn't see to catch on to what Tigh was saying until he laid everything out for them. I was also partially distracted at the start of this episode, so I might have missed something as well.
And, yeah, I'd like to hear about what's on the podcasts. I wasn't aware that they included information like that.
Posted by Mighty Blogger Snay (Member # 411) on :
Sieg,
"Also, was it stated that the Cylons' plan was a standard tactic? I got the impression that this was specifically something Tigh had experienced."
Probably both. Remember, the last time the humans saw Cylons, Tigh was a relatively young man. It's doubtful that anyone else on the CIC crew served during that conflict, and therefore, would not (neccessarily) be aware of what a "standard" Cylon tactic would consist of.
Posted by MrNeutron (Member # 524) on :
Ron Moore's podcast for this episode relates how these events were originally planned for "Scattered", and in the flahsbacks Tigh relates to Adama how his ship was boarded by Cylons, and Adama relates that the Galactica (which was the first ship He served on) had a similar experience, which is how Tigh knows what they plan to do.
Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :
I will transcribe.
quote:The backstory to the series is that the initial Cylon conflict was fought forty years ago, and in that war both Tigh and Adama were young men who did not fight together; they fought in seperate ways on seperate vessels, had seperate experiences; and after the war was over both men were discharged along with many other service people out into the civilian world, and they both sort of happened to sign up aboard the same civilian sort of tramp freighter that was plying the trade routes among the colonies, and that is how they met.
re the Cylon boarding action:
quote:This sequence where Tigh tells them what the Cylons are after, when he says they're actually going over here to aft damage control and they're going to auxilary fire control and he says it. . . I know where they're going; and in this version of the show, the aired version of the show, you just assume that, well, Tigh's encountered these guys before, he fought in the first Cylon wars this is a memory. It was more literal in the script and in the first cut.
Then he talks about the baby drowning scene before going back to how there was originally a flashback to Tigh and Adama trading war stories of attacks like this.
"What kind of person could murder an innocent baby?"
Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :
I will be beaten to the punch!
Posted by Siegfried (Member # 29) on :
Thanks, guys, that clears some stuff up.
Posted by Lee (Member # 393) on :
It's a fucking conspiracy, I tell you. Or were the schedules always full of dead babies and I just never noticed before because I wasn't a father then? It's giving me a serious bloody complex, I tell you. Saturday night, nothing on TV, start idly watching a CSI re-run and boom! Right away it's a baby left by its mother in the car during a heatwave. That really bloody freaked me out, coming at the end of a week when Lula decided to dive head-first out of her high chair (I caught her, I've never moved so fast in my life). My nerves calmed, I settle down to watch the new BSG. And what am I faced with? Wahey, let's all drown babies! Since I was expecting somehting more along the lines of them peeling back the blanket to reveal a nice shiny chrome toaster, you can understand this left me feeling a little out-of-sorts (and it was such a blatant bit of Baltar-brainwashing - alliteration ahoy - on Six's part). All this coming hot on the heels of the T'Pol-Tucker baby storyline is not doing my nerves much good. Enough already! And if anybody below the age of puberty dies in Lost (which starts here in a few weeks) I wanna know now, as I'm hoping to get Kate to watch it too and if you think my reaction to children's deaths is bad you don't wanna see hers. . .
Posted by B.J. (Member # 858) on :
I see you've got the same problem I do. Stories with babies didn't affect me near as much before, but now that I have two kids of my own, it's really jarring. I don't think it's a conspiracy, it's just you're now extremely sensitive to that now, just like I am.
(Although they didn't show it explicitly, that one scene from the Dune mini still turns my stomach. And since my first child was still a baby at the time, that's the only part of the mini I can remember!)
B.J.
Posted by Lee (Member # 393) on :
I haven't seen the Dune miniserieses, since having a non-SF-fan spouse I don't watch much SF in prime time, and the UK SciFi Channel (which I don't have anymore anyway since we only have Freeview) never repeated them at any time I was around (or awake) to watch. But I'll bear that in mind.
I wonder, will this feeling fade, or evolve? When she's a teenager, will I be unable to watch teenage-slasher-horror-pics? Not that I do anyway, but still.
Back to the subject at hand, I wonder if they'll update the "47,xxx survivors" bit of the credits? Because I'd say that Cylon spree on BG has reduced numbers slightly. . .
Posted by Peregrinus (Member # 504) on :
Regarding the question of how Six got Baltar's genetic material, has everyone forgotten the brief time a real Six was on the Galactica, assigned as Baltar's assistant ("Y-you can see her?")?
And by the way, Starbuck's ride is a Humvee, not a Hummer. The one is the military version (which hers sure is), the other is the commercial release. Fried of mine has a surplus Humvee, and I'm fine with that, but I'll never ride in or own any of the commercial models. I wouldn't be caught dead in something named after a slang term for a blow job...
--Jonah
Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :
That, along with poor gas milage, is what doomed the Ford Knob Slobber.
Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :
And in a seperate post so as not to sully it: word is that the survivor count in the credits will be dynamic. So what was it this week?
Posted by Topher (Member # 71) on :
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