Okay, so far I really like the way that season nine is shaping up. But I mainly wanted to comment that I've come up with what I think is an excellent analogy for the Ori (I admit I had to look up the spelling on SciFi.com):
These guys are evil alien Jehovah's Witnesses! Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :
I'm glad their new villains aren't steeped in the Arthurian stuff. Though what was the point of all of it, then? Why did Merlin have that communication thingy? Was it a very old invention that both groups had, or was there some contact going on, or was he in fact an evil Ancient?
Things went badly for Daniel and Vala's hosts.
I liked how they destroyed the device.
Posted by Cartman (Member # 256) on :
"These guys are evil alien Jehovah's Witnesses!"
More like evil alien Inquisitors.
(Not that there are any other kind.)
Posted by WizArtist II (Member # 1425) on :
I have to admit I am very disappointed in the direction they are taking. Once they deal with these ancients, will there be an Even More Ancient group that will pop up? Did I miss it or did the first hood call prong-boy Lucer? (as in a play on Lucifer)
Posted by Omega (Member # 91) on :
quote:These guys are evil alien Jehovah's Witnesses
So Jehovah's Witnesses, then?
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
Simon: When you say "evil Ancient", do you mean the Altera, Earth's Ancients, who are accused of being "evil"? Because, remember, he was one of the ones who went with Atlantis to the Pegasus Galaxy, and later returned. So, if you meant that he was one of the pah wraiths Ori, it would mean he was living among the Altera without their knowing it (or caring, anyway).
[ July 31, 2005, 04:21 PM: Message edited by: TSN ]
Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :
I think you may have lost me. I guess I'm still confused about the timeline. Basically, I'm wondering if the communication device was some old time Ancient device, as seems likely, and therefore was on both Earth and Distant Wherever because their long lost ancestors had them, or if it is a more modern invention, and its presence at both locations might say something about good/evil Ancient relations. Did Merlin just have it because it was a common thing to have, in other words, or might the fact that he had it mean something more?
But here I'm getting into speculation about things not explored in the show yet.
Posted by B.J. (Member # 858) on :
Personally, I'm getting a deep B5 vibe from the whole situation. Ascended beings who have a difference of opinion of how to guide the younger races, etc.....
Being a (displaced) Southern boy myself, it seemed to me like Mitchell was acting and talking like he was from the South. (Much more realistically than that Hollywood Southern speak I'm hearing in the Dukes of Hazzard movie promos. *retch*)
Okay, I swear I thought the Doci (prong-boy) was Jeremy Irons, but it was someone I haven't heard of - Julian Sands.
And where is Carter?
B.J.
Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :
Area 51. Amanda Tapping was having a baby.
Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :
That was Julian Sands?? - wasn't he the guy from those Warlock movies!?!
Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :
OK, I've really enjoyed the first 3 episodes of SG1 season 9. Actually I just finished watching episode 3 - and it's left me all jittery/uneasy! Well done to the show!
Firstly, can someone explain some things to me?
1. What was the point of the Arthurian stuff, except to give the Milky Way a new name - "Avalon" and introduce some more Ancient history.
The Ancients now have another name - The Alteans - weren't they also called the Lanteans?
So by ep 2 they've ditched the Authurian stuff and have introduced another big bad.
The Ancients came from another Galaxy to Milkyway/Avalon (later on they went to Pegasus galaxy) I don't know if they went to Othala (Asguard galaxy).
The Ori are also the same race as the Ancients? They stayed behind? SOME? Ascended like SOME of the Ancients? The Ori are the firey type beings. The priors are Ori-inhabited humans?
Are the HUMANS there HUMANS like in the Milky way or like the descendents of Ancients - like in the Pegasus galaxy: Tayla etc.
The Priors look a cross between Human and Wraith!
Why don't they just set the Ori against the Wraith!
Where are the Furlings!?!
That is all.
Thanks,
Andrew
P.S. Where did they ring-transport up to? Into a ship? Did anyone notice that the rings looked different?
Posted by Krenim (Member # 22) on :
quote:Originally posted by AndrewR: The priors are Ori-inhabited humans?
I think what they said was that the Priors were advanced humans, much the same as Nirrti was trying to create.
quote:Originally posted by AndrewR: Why don't they just set the Ori against the Wraith!
This begs the question: Do the Ori now know about the Pegasus Galaxy as well?
Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :
Are the Priors and the others Human though or just descendents of unascended Ori? (Just going back to one of my questions).
Posted by Mark Nguyen (Member # 469) on :
The Furlings will never show up. Whenever someone asks the F question at conventions, the writers basically just shake their heads and move on.
The Furlings were whipped up by the original batch of writers, who are basically gone now; pretty much everyone who followed have no idea how to make it work without people sniggering all the time. So they're not going to bother.
Mark
Posted by Omega (Member # 91) on :
quote:Being a (displaced) Southern boy myself, it seemed to me like Mitchell was acting and talking like he was from the South.
Browder's from Memphis.
quote:This begs the question: Do the Ori now know about the Pegasus Galaxy as well?
It's possible that the modifications to the Pegasus gate also had something to do with making sure the Ori can't dial that galaxy.. But that's out of nowhere.
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
"The Ancients now have another name - The Alteans - weren't they also called the Lanteans?"
"Lanteans" = Atlanteans. It's a name that only applies to the group of Alterans who travelled to the Pegasus Galaxy.
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
So that means Lemuria was funded by alien Lemurs?
Good God- they're about a season away from declaring all human myth, legend and culture is alien-based nonsense.
Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :
What about Mu then? I still think the Furlings could be a good idea - seeing as they've given the ancients various names now - I'm sure they can some how modify what the Furlings are really called.
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
Think of this way: The Furlings are to "Stargate" what Morn's voice was to DS9.
Posted by Cartman (Member # 256) on :
"Personally, I'm getting a deep B5 vibe from the whole situation."
And you're going to get an even deeper Crusade vibe when the Ori unleash a plague on Earth (how much do you want to bet it was also them who plagued the unascended Alterans so much they rebooted the galaxy? (note: I wouldn't bet a lot, since that doesn't jibe with the Ori not knowing about Avalon until now)) in the mid-season two-parter, though of course it won't be a five-year affair. But then, neither was Crusade. B)
"Are the Priors and the others Human though or just descendents of unascended Ori?"
Likely the former, if the bit about the Ori being their "creators" can be believed (it'd be interesting to find out wether the humans there were created before or after the Ori/Alteran split, whenever that was).
Posted by Lee (Member # 393) on :
I'm guessing that at this point, attracting new viewers to the franchise isn't a big priority over at the Sci-Fi Channel.
Posted by WizArtist II (Member # 1425) on :
I could have sworn they were called Friars, or in the case of the one on Earth, Frier.
I agree that this is starting to smell awfully Strazynski around the ol' "ring thing....flushes sideways". Now Oneall can disappear only to reappear a couple of seasons later as the First Atlantean,and lead a war against the wraith. Since he is also the Anti-Ra as seen in the finale of last season why not?
You know, the way they've travelled to all these other cells of humanity maybe he is really Nathan Brazil.
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
God...that actually makes a kind of sense. In a wholly unoriginal sort of way, that is.
Posted by WizArtist II (Member # 1425) on :
quote:Originally posted by Jason Abbadon: God...that actually makes a kind of sense. In a wholly unoriginal sort of way, that is.
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