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Posted by Reverend (Member # 335) on :
 
Apparently this is airing in November.
Check out the Teaser and the preview

I think there's a rumour that the old model cylons will show up.
 
Posted by Johnny (Member # 878) on :
 
What's the figure behind Adama at the end of the preview? Maybe it's just wishful thinking, but your mention of old style Cylons has got me thinking it looks like a reimagined version of Lucifer's IL-series model.
 
Posted by Mars Needs Women (Member # 1505) on :
 
Well the old school Cylon appears to be encased in a glass display. Maybe Adama was visiting the hanger which was converted into a museum.
 
Posted by Mark Nguyen (Member # 469) on :
 
The old Cylons will show up - but apparently some or all of them will be CG-format to mesh better with the existing newer-style ones.

Mark
 
Posted by Reverend (Member # 335) on :
 
I might be hearing things but I swear I can hear the Cylon/KITT "whoosh whoosh" sound effect when Adama walks in front of the old museum centurion.

Hang on, wasn't the museum/starboard landing bay de-pressurised when the heavy raider crashed through the big window? Or were the Vipers etc kept down in the launch bays? I forget.

Also according to wiki (not the best source of info, I know) the movie will show a flashback to Cains childhood where she witnesses her the death of her parents. I suppose it would be too cute to wonder if they'll get one of the Bridges to play her father. [Wink]

[ July 11, 2007, 01:36 PM: Message edited by: Reverend ]
 
Posted by Mars Needs Women (Member # 1505) on :
 
I always assumed that the Viper MKII were on display at the museum and where somehow moved to the other hanger.
 
Posted by MinutiaeMan (Member # 444) on :
 
The museum squadron was stored in the starboard hangar, where the launch bay had been turned into a gift shop. They were all moved over to the port pod for combat prep and launching way back in the miniseries. The starboard pod was pretty much always abandoned and unused.
 
Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :
 
There was a big article about this at, I don't know, Ain't It Cool News probably, awhile ago. Or maybe somewhere better. But anyway.

Hey, here we go. A month old, though, so perhaps out of date/debunked now, I don't know.
 
Posted by Peregrinus (Member # 504) on :
 
Don't trust their creative use of sound effects in the teaser. I remember the teaser for TNG's "Schisms"... For the flashes we saw of the subspace aliens' domain, they put the BROMMBROMMBROMMBROMM sound of the Whalesong Probe from Star Trek IV over them. I was stoked. I recognized it immediately and wondered what it might mean. Watched the episode. That sound was nowhere in it.

--Jonah
 
Posted by Lee (Member # 393) on :
 
I'll obviously watch it, but I'm not sure I can get excited about it all: it all seems like a bit of a combination of In The Beginning and Thirdspace to me. . .
 
Posted by Fabrux (Member # 71) on :
 
Which was good and crap, in that order.
 
Posted by Johnny (Member # 878) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Peregrinus:
Don't trust their creative use of sound effects in the teaser. I remember the teaser for TNG's "Schisms"... For the flashes we saw of the subspace aliens' domain, they put the BROMMBROMMBROMMBROMM sound of the Whalesong Probe from Star Trek IV over them. I was stoked. I recognized it immediately and wondered what it might mean. Watched the episode. That sound was nowhere in it.

--Jonah

A bit like the BBC sexing up an advert with the Queen in it where she looks like she's storming out of a photography sitting, when it's actually footage of her politely arriving. [Big Grin]

Upon reflection, it's very obvious that the Cylon in the teaser is just the one in the glass display cabinet. The sound effects and my own wishful thinking made me think it was something way more exciting. [Frown] Oh well, hopefully that article is correct and we'll see some good scenes of the first war.
 
Posted by Reverend (Member # 335) on :
 
Oh I know it's taken out of context - it is a trailer after all - I just thought it was oddly cool and somewhat menacing to hear the sound effect combined with that image, especially if you consider I'm not much of an original series fan.

However, the fact that Adama is in the Museum (which has gone unmentioned since the mini) lends credence the the idea we'll get to see a Cylon War flashback, since why else would he be there except to reminisce?
 
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
 
How could you possibly think it a good idea to use "sexing up" and "the Queen" in the same sentence?
 
Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :
 
SPOILERS MANS:

Though, not so much spoilers as, isn't this what has already been talked about?

The classic Cylons show up in at least one place: Admiral Cain's girlhood memories. (I mean, you know, as portrayed by flashback. Classic Cylons are probably in most of the characters' memories.)

I guess that is it. Oh, Cain totally kisses a girl maybe, and then comes to really regret it.

I was sure I was reading somewhere how the old Cylons are more or less the classic design, but done with CG like the new ones so that the way they walk and stuff doesn't stand out.

My questions are: is this movie thing a separate entity, budgetwise? I don't want the last season to get shortchanged because of the movie, and then not have enough money to do a scene with fifty Cylons standing around arguing with themselves. Plus, you know, explosions as needed.

Also, originally I was under the impression that the film was going to be the story of the Pegasus before, during, and after the attack. But there's a lot of Adama and co. in that teaser. So is there some sort of framing device? Scenes set on Galactica during the time the miniseries was busy on Caprica?

Sidenote: rumors about season four sound interesting, but I'm not sure that they're what I want, exactly, even though they seem like good stories.
 
Posted by Peregrinus (Member # 504) on :
 
I'm hoping Ron Moore is enough of a fanboy to have the Cylons -- flashback or not -- actually speak. God's knickers I love those voices...

--Jonah
 
Posted by Reverend (Member # 335) on :
 
It could work...maybe. If the dialogue is kept reasonably straight forward and know one is called "Imperious Leader" - which I'm pretty sure is an insult, strictly speaking - it could work.

The acknowledgement "by your command" has been used once already, so it could be used I suppose and it would make sense that the Cylons that were meant to directly work with humans would be given basic speech function, other wise you'd need to carry around a text display devise whenever you want to communicate with a toaster. I suppose you could argue that the very reason that "modern" centurions do not speak is because the skinjobs don't want them too. Perhaps it reminds them of their slave origins or maybe it's another way to make sure they don't rebel themselves by restricting their communication as well as their ability to distinguish skinjobs from each other.
 
Posted by Omega (Member # 91) on :
 
I've heard from a Moore interview that Razor will have a separate budget from the season. It has its own pile of money.
 
Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :
 
Here's a press release excerpt:

In anticipation of the premiere of SCI FI's stunning two-hour event, Battlestar Galactica: Razor, the Channel will whet viewers' appetites with an eight-week series of exclusive 2-3 minute mini-sodes. Premiering in October on SCI FI during primetime, these promotional shorts will lead into the November 24 premiere of Razor, a special extended episode that will provide a backdrop to events that will take place in the rest of season four of Galactica. Written by Michael Taylor, and directed by Wayne Rose and Felix Alcala, these shorts will provide a sneak peek into the original Cylon War, when a young pilot named William Adama (Nico Cortez) discovers a dangerous Cylon weapon that will come back to haunt him and his crew 40 years later. Filmed as part of the extended episode, the mini-sodes will be included in the unrated Universal Home Video release of Razor. They will also be available on SCIFI.COM after their on-air debuts. Battlestar Galactica: Razor will tell the story of Lee Adama's (Jamie Bamber) first mission as commander of the Battlestar Pegasus and will reveal the story of how Admiral Cain (Michelle Forbes) served her ship during the original Cylon attack on the Colonies.

(Webisodes? Minisodes? Bruce Sterling says you can tell when something is hot when a wall of ugly neologisms gets thrown at it.)
 
Posted by Mark Nguyen (Member # 469) on :
 
I wasn't TOO enthused by the webisodes from last year... but I'm truly hoping that this FINALLY means we get to see Galactica, or a ship like it, in all her pristine glory, all her hull plates intact, and all her flight decks a workin'. [Smile]

Mark
 
Posted by Jeff (Member # 1943) on :
 
Speaking of DVDs, has there been any word on a releae date for Season 3 on DVD?
 
Posted by Reverend (Member # 335) on :
 
Region 2 is set for early September I think.
 
Posted by Fabrux (Member # 71) on :
 
Here's Gateworld's article on the minisodes... clicky

Although that excites me, I'm more excited about the Farscape web series! Its about frelling time! [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Reverend (Member # 335) on :
 
the frelling whatnow!?
 
Posted by Lee (Member # 393) on :
 
quote:
Fans will return to the Farscape universe in an original Web series, set to be released on SCIFI.com. The 10-part series is executive produced by Brian Henson and Robert Halmi, Jr., and produced by The Jim Henson Company in association with RHI Entertainment. "The series will revive and expand the beloved Farscape universe," according to the network.

No word yet on just which actors or characters will be involved in the project, or just when it will arrive. After being unceremoniously cancelled after four seasons, the critically-acclaimed Farscape (starring Stargate SG-1's Ben Browder and Claudia Black) returned in 2004 for the 4-hour miniseries Farscape: The Peacekeeper Wars.

Funny, these days every time I think of Farscape I immediately remember being in a restaurant in London, maybe a Pizza Express or a Zizzi's, with my wife-to-be and the friend we were about to ask to be my best man, sometime in 2001 and then suddenly realising I'd forgotten to put "Die Me Dichotomy" on to tape that night. Very annoying. Still haven't seen it, so I've no idea how Aeryn turns out to still be alive. And, damn those season-by-season box-sets are expensive, I'm fucked if I'm paying �99.99 each.
 
Posted by Reverend (Member # 335) on :
 
Where did you see them going for a hundred squids?
I bought them all on Amazon last year and I think they were about �35, 40 tops.

(EDIT)

Actually, Amazon marketplace has the whole series going for �145. link
That's a bargin mate.
 
Posted by Lee (Member # 393) on :
 
They used to cost .2 of a monkey everywhere, and I'm sure I've seen them in HMV still priced at that.
 
Posted by Johnny (Member # 878) on :
 
HMV has season 1 of Joey priced at �50, nuff said.
 
Posted by Reverend (Member # 335) on :
 
Well that's HMV for you. I buy just about all my DVDs from AmazonUK now, ever since MVC went out of business.
 
Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :
 
.2 of a monkey? Really? I'll have to write that down.
 
Posted by Arichamus (Member # 1986) on :
 
Hopefully, they will explain why she randomly kisses a girl.

Oh, and why are they making this, again?
 
Posted by Mars Needs Women (Member # 1505) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Arichamus:
Hopefully, they will explain why she randomly kisses a girl.

Are you referring to the upcoming episode or a previous one in which she appears? I think this episode was made to hold us over until the new season starts and it will supposedly reveal some things important to season 4.
 
Posted by Arichamus (Member # 1986) on :
 
I mean why she randomly kisses a girl in 'Razor'(damn stupid name).
 
Posted by Fabrux (Member # 71) on :
 
Apparently Caine and Gina were lovers on the Pegasus. As to what Gina's capacity was on the Pegasus, I guess we'll find out.
 


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