This is topic Definitive List of Star Wars DVD Changes... in forum Star Wars at Flare Sci-Fi Forums.


To visit this topic, use this URL:
https://flare.solareclipse.net/ultimatebb.php/topic/9/251.html

Posted by Mark Nguyen (Member # 469) on :
 
Or for that matter, the changes made from the theatrical versions to the special editions. Anyone know? There's gotta be SOME website devoted to this out there somewhere...

Mark
 
Posted by Spike (Member # 322) on :
 
This page covers the changes between the Special Editions and the DVD release:
http://www.thedigitalbits.com/reviews3/starwarschanges.html
 
Posted by Hobbes (Member # 138) on :
 
You would think Lucas would realize that the whole Greedo shooting first thing was the worst idea ever ... including Jar Jar Binks. Restoring it to the original Han shooting first would have made a lot of fans happy.

Also if he's going to change Anakin's ghost, why not change the scene after he throws the Emporer over the edge and Luke takes off his helmet.
 
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
 
The final changes are all here:
http://www.somethingawful.com/articles.php?a=2374
 
Posted by School of Nim (Member # 205) on :
 
I have an idea, Sir Nguyen; buy da box and look @ it! *overgasps*
 
Posted by The Mighty Monkey of Mim (Member # 646) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Hobbes:
You would think Lucas would realize that the whole Greedo shooting first thing was the worst idea ever ... including Jar Jar Binks. Restoring it to the original Han shooting first would have made a lot of fans happy.

But it seems that a lot of fans don't realize that Greedo *always* fired first...at least according to Lucas. The manner in which the scene was edited originally just didn't make this clear. But I agree, the digital morph effect on Solo's countenance and having Greedo miss by soooo far at point blank range were hackneyed and distasteful.
 
Posted by Mark Nguyen (Member # 469) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by School of Nim:
I have an idea, Sir Nguyen; buy da box and look @ it! *overgasps*

Ahh, Nimsie... You KNOW I will. But my untrained eyes will nae see many of the more minor alterations. I need a Cliff Notes digest of the changes to help me on my way.

Speaking of which, how about a list of the changes from the theatrical version to the SE?

Mark
 
Posted by Spike (Member # 322) on :
 
http://www.theforce.net/swse/

Sponsored by Google [Wink]
 
Posted by Hobbes (Member # 138) on :
 
I've heard that too Mim, I don't know if it's true or Lucas says so because he doesn't want to revert to the original version. He obviously knows fans hate that alteration, so he gives a reason for it being there with no intention of changing it back even though it'd make almost every Star Wars fan happy.

Greedo can't be much of a good bounty hunter if he misses a target by that much when he's only sitting two feet away from him.
 
Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :
 
To be fair, nobody said he was any good.
 
Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :
 
Y'know, I was thinking that it wouldn't be too hard to replace ugly-old--bloke with Hayden-in-makeup.

And I know that's all changing things and bad, but I really, really hate it when characters are recast. It drags you out of your suspension of disbelief.

"But what about Obi-Wan", you cry. And you'd be right. Except that between the time Ben first appears in ANH and dies, we've had over an hour to get to know Guiness as the new/old Kenobi. With Anakin though, kid's are going to go: "who the fuck is that in Vadar's costume? He didn't look like that? What's going on? Wait, no, he's back to looking like he did in that other one. I'm confused. I hate Star Wars. I'm going to go and watch The OC."

Disaster, I think you'll agree.
 
Posted by MarianLH (Member # 1102) on :
 
Originally posted by Hobbes:
quote:
Greedo can't be much of a good bounty hunter if he misses a target by that much when he's only sitting two feet away from him.
It was the Duros gloves. They threw off her aim. [Smile]


Marian


This random sig quote is brought to you by Freefall:
"This is a nice place. Veterinarian must be an important job on a planet that's being terraformed."
"It really makes you wonder what kind of strange creatures he has in here."
"...Especially when you realize that something is licking your ankle."
 
Posted by School of Nim (Member # 205) on :
 
So now you're saying Han shoots women in bars?
 
Posted by akb1979 (Member # 557) on :
 
Personally I think that the changing of Anakin at the end of ROTJ is the most stupid thing to have been changed as he dies an old man - not a young one! [Frown]

Someone needs to teach Lucas how to suck eggs! [Frown]
 
Posted by Hobbes (Member # 138) on :
 
Her? Greedo's a she? When the fuck did that happen?
 
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
 
1977, apparently.

But, then, there's also this guy. So, I don't know.

And it's not that one was in the suit and the other was the voice, because he was the voice.

Edit: I guess I should have checked here to begin with.
 
Posted by MarianLH (Member # 1102) on :
 
Exactly. [Smile] And something the databank doesn't mention is that when the later shots were done with Maria, the Greedo costume hands weren't available for some reason. So they used the hands from the Duros costume instead. Hastily repainted, one presumes, since the Duros were blue.

I got the story from here.


Marian


This random sig quote is brought to you by Umiio:
"The suction cups are vestigial." *SCHWAK* "Honest."
 
Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :
 
I didn't re1alise that the original tESB Emperor was played by a woman!
 
Posted by Kazeite (Member # 970) on :
 
You learn something new every day [Smile]
 
Posted by Mark Nguyen (Member # 469) on :
 
Ahh - HERE we go. That'll explain everything for me.

Mark
 
Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :
 
In the incredibly sad circles I traveled in as a young boy, knowing that Greedo was played by a girl was the best way to establish nerd cred.
 
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
 
When I was a young boy, I knew not who "Greedo" was.

I first saw SW when I was a junior in high school.

Nerd cred: zero.
 
Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :
 
Return of the Jedi was probably the first movie I ever saw in a theater. Certainly the first I can remember. (I was three.)
 
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
 
I saw a re-release of ANH just a few months before ESB came out.
Then I saw ESB in the front row of an old theatre: the kind with a screen that seems to stretch forever when you're a kid of seven or eight.
I missed about te first 15 minutes though: the lines were literally down the block to get in nad I came in when the Wampa was beating on ol' Luke.

I fell asleep during the re-relaese SE of ANH and again in ESB....it was a rough time in my life and I needed the rest.
 
Posted by Kazeite (Member # 970) on :
 
Ahhh, the memories... [Smile]

The first SW movie I saw was TESB. I saw it with my father, who introduced me to the characters. I remember when he first said "And this is Darth Vader", and I thought "What is this 'Darth Vader'? Some kind of satelite?", because, the first time we see Vader in TESB, we see only back of his helmet [Big Grin]

I also remember how relieved I was seeing unfrozen Han Solo in ROTJ photos [Cool]
 
Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Kazeite:
I remember when he first said "And this is Darth Vader", and I thought "What is this 'Darth Vader'? Some kind of satelite?"

Did you carry on speaking like you were a visiting dignitary for the rest of the movie?
 
Posted by Aban Rune (Member # 226) on :
 
As I recall, the first one I saw was RotJ when it was aired on television when I was a kid in Texas. My mom had never let me watch Star Wars before because she thought all the aliens "were weird".

At some point, I rented all the videos.

I also saw all three SE movies in the theaters when they were rereleased while I was in college. We stood in line for hours to see them all on opening night. There was a power outage during The Empire Strikes Back, though, and the movie stopped 5 minutes in. I thought there was going to be a riot and you could see that the theater manager was scared out of his mind.
 
Posted by School of Nim (Member # 205) on :
 
TSN: "I fell asleep during the re-relaese SE of ANH and again in ESB....it was a rough time in my life and I needed the rest."

Well it's good that you admitted it yourself, that goes a long way with the jury. It's sure to shorten the sentence, at least.
 
Posted by Cartman (Member # 256) on :
 
Well, you'd think so, since TSN didn't actually say that. But you know how juries are.

And my first theatrical experience with Star Wars was The Phantom Menace. Nerd cerd: -$BIGNUMBER.
 
Posted by Kazeite (Member # 970) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by PsyLiam:
Did you carry on speaking like you were a visiting dignitary for the rest of the movie?

Huh? I wasn't the one talking. Perhaps I made some grammar error and you are making fun of that?
 
Posted by Malnurtured Snay (Member # 411) on :
 
The Best Buy in White Marsh opened at 12:01am to sell the DVDs. I went, took one look at the parking lot full of cars, and the line of folks out of the building and around the corner ...

... and said, "fuck it" and went home, slept, and bought the set this afternoon.
 
Posted by Fleet-Admiral Michael T. Colorge (Member # 144) on :
 
Hmm... just like Christmas.
 
Posted by MarianLH (Member # 1102) on :
 
Originally posted by Kazeite:
quote:
I also remember how relieved I was seeing unfrozen Han Solo in ROTJ photos [Cool]
Heh, I remember being disappointed, because they gave it away. Big two-page shot of Han surrounded by Ewoks in Time Magazine. [Frown]

I wonder if Marvel Comics was ever able to wrap up their "where in the galaxy is the slab-o-Han" plotline before ROTJ came out. At the time it seemed perfectly natural that Our Heroes would have to scour the galaxy looking for him. Being just a kid, I didn't put two and two together and realise that they knew all along where Boba was going.

Apparently neither did Marvel. [Smile]


Marian


This random sig quote is brought to you by the Star Wars Galaxies forums:
"Well, just think about who really uses [leetspeak]: Lonely teenage guys who live in their parents' basements and have girlfriends whose names end in .jpg" --Fluke_Starbucker, 09-03-2004 01:26 PM
 
Posted by Nim (Member # 205) on :
 
Marian: Actually, if you rewatch the end of "The Empire Strikes Back", Luke is on the medical frigate, talking to Lando and Chewie in the Falcon, briefing them on the rendezvous at Tattoine and instructing them to "wait for the signal". So they had the plans ready for infiltrating Jabba's palace already then. I think Leia and Chewie understood what Boba would do with Han already in the carbonite chamber.
 
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
 
He says "I'll meet you on Tatoinne." so it's not real secret as to where they're going: the reason why they're going there is not clear (as we never saw Jabba's palace before and the big slug could have lived anywhere).
 
Posted by Nim (Member # 205) on :
 
Jabba's presence on Tatooine was established in "A New Hope", as was Solo's being out of favor with him. And in TESB it seemed to be common knowledge that Jabba had put a price on Solo's head.
 
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
 
Jabba's palace is not mentioned in the theatrical ANH thoug nad we were talking about Marvels' silly "where is the slab o' Han" story arc.

Though it's not as bad as any DC Trek comic.
((Suudder))

I may have to break out my VHS SE of ESB later for old time's sake....the update for DVD does not sound essential to my life (as it's been years since I bothered with watching them anyhow.
As I've seen the regular versions each at least ten times.

Something amusing:
http://img6.exs.cx/img6/5084/lucaschanges.jpg
 
Posted by MarianLH (Member # 1102) on :
 
Guys, go back and READ my post. I said "at the time" it seemed natural, because "Being just a kid, I didn't put two and two together". But obviously I already know all the stuff you were falling over each other to tell me, because I also said, "they knew all along where Boba was going".

Sheesh. Remedial Reading Comprehension, anyone? [Big Grin]

Marian
 
Posted by Aban Rune (Member # 226) on :
 
It's been mentioned before, somewhere, but the name Tatooine wasn't mentioned in the original release of ANH, right? So, going strictly by the movies, when Luke says he'll hook up with them on Tatooine, noone really knew what Tatooine was and it could've been any planet. However, I'm pretty sure that it had been pretty well established in off-camera sources that the desert planet in ANH was Tatooine by the time ESB came out.
 
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
 
Tatooine was well established by the toys though.
Every kid knew what the planet's name was.
 
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
 
"I may have to break out my VHS SE of ESB later for old time's sake..."

That's not good, when the special editions are viewed for "old times' sake".
 
Posted by Malnurtured Snay (Member # 411) on :
 
I really hate the Emperor's new dialogue in TESB. Now it has the feel of him scolding Vader, "I told you not to sleep with that girl, didn't I? Well, didn't I? And now your kid is running around blowing up our battle-stations. GOOD JOB, ass!"
 
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
 
What exactly IS the new dialogue?
If the Emporer refers to vader as "Annie" I will personally buckwheat Lucas.
 
Posted by MarianLH (Member # 1102) on :
 
Originally posted by Jason Abbadon:
quote:
What exactly IS the new dialogue?
If the Emporer refers to vader as "Annie" I will personally buckwheat Lucas.

To paraphrase a certain taciturn bartender, "no spoilers, no spoilers!" [Smile]

Or at least, use a spoiler warning.


Marian

This random sig quote is brought to you by the Star Wars Galaxies forums:
"What do you mean I can't run people off the road? I make my car payment, just like everyone else." --Me
 
Posted by Nim (Member # 205) on :
 
Should we know this bartender? I've never seen a movie with a bartender discussing movie details, nor have I seen a bartender picking out auto-parts to rice out his car with, obstinately rejecting these wind-flaps.
 
Posted by MarianLH (Member # 1102) on :
 
[Smile]
 
Posted by Malnurtured Snay (Member # 411) on :
 
quote:
Should we know this bartender? I've never seen a movie with a bartender discussing movie details, nor have I seen a bartender picking out auto-parts to rice out his car with, obstinately rejecting these wind-flaps.
Uh, Nim, remember the scene in Star Wars when Ponda Baba pulls a blaster and the bartender dives under the counter shouting "No blasters, no blasters!" as Obi-Wan ignites his light-saber and slices Ponda Babe into deli sized portions?
 
Posted by MarianLH (Member # 1102) on :
 
In fairness to Nim, I think I may have misused the word "paraphrase." But yes, that is what I was thinking of. [Smile]

And Sol, thanks for the quote! I can't wait to use it in the SWG forums. [Smile]


Marian

This random sig quote is brought to you by the Flare Sci Fi forums:
"In the incredibly sad circles I traveled in as a young boy, knowing that Greedo was played by a girl was the best way to establish nerd cred." --Sol System, September 20, 2004
 
Posted by Nim (Member # 205) on :
 
I never heard the "no blasters"-line, just Ponda's angry bellowing and Kenobi's igniting saber.
Tell you what though, I may be able to check it out on the new DVDs this weekend, my favorite shop is selling the box for 499 Kronor (67$), quite doable.
 
Posted by The Mighty Monkey of Mim (Member # 646) on :
 
Ha ha. I got mine for $44.03 flat with my Target employee discount. But even without it it would only have been $44.99 plus tax. Then i went to Borders and laughed at their $67 price tag. I rule.
 
Posted by Aban Rune (Member # 226) on :
 
Someone told me that Meijer is selling it for $44, too. For those of you not from the Northern Midwest, USA, Meijer is like a regional version of Super Wal-Mart. Except better.
 
Posted by Malnurtured Snay (Member # 411) on :
 
I went to Best Buy, got it for $46 or something.
 
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
 
"I got mine for $44.03 flat with my Target employee discount. But even without it it would only have been $44.99 plus tax."

So, your employee discount is about 2%?
 
Posted by The Mighty Monkey of Mim (Member # 646) on :
 
No, it's 10%. You have to remember that sales tax in California is up to 8.75 cents on the dollar now. Man, does that suck. But that's why the employee discount is nice. [Wink]

[ September 26, 2004, 01:55 AM: Message edited by: The Mighty Monkey of Mim ]
 
Posted by deadcujo (Member # 13) on :
 
Sales tax is 8.25% in Los Angeles. [Frown]
 
Posted by The Mighty Monkey of Mim (Member # 646) on :
 
Check again. It was just raised a few months ago.
 
Posted by deadcujo (Member # 13) on :
 
Crap.
 
Posted by Nim (Member # 205) on :
 
My discount is a crushed biscuit in office mail bin.
I will go chop the DVD-box AFAIK.
 
Posted by Captain Boh (Member # 1282) on :
 
14.5% total sails tax in B.C.
 
Posted by Cartman (Member # 256) on :
 
19%. Spoiled twats.
 
Posted by Wraith (Member # 779) on :
 
17.5%. Oh, the joys of comparing VAT rates.
 
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
 
Missouri's sales tax is 4.225%. Of course, St. Louis County adds their own tax onto that, bringing it up to 6.075%. And each municipality in the county adds to that as it sees fit, so it tends to be a little over 7.5%.

So, um... ha, I guess.
 
Posted by The Mighty Monkey of Mim (Member # 646) on :
 
By the way, after watching the new DVDs I note that while Boba Fett's voice has been redubbed by Temura Morrison of AOTC, the stormtroopers have not. So I, in my infinite wisdom, declare the argument that the troopers during the Civil War are just the clonetroopers from the Clone Wars re-costumed to be null and void.

And the Han-steps-on-Jabba's-tail scene in ANH still looks like crap. And so does the musical number in ROTJ. But what the fuck...
 
Posted by Reverend (Member # 335) on :
 
Well the Jabba scene is a definate improvement over the '97 version.

The greatest let down of the DVDs for me is the ending of RotJ, where we see Naboo and that the Gungans are still alive! Why couldn't the Death Star have been demonstrated on that planet?
 
Posted by Lee (Member # 393) on :
 
Oh, come on, think it through! 20 years for R&D and full construction of the first Death Star, yet only, what, three for partial completion of the second? No, I think we can make a good case for at least one previous prototype, perhaps even one with the planet-blaster emitter on the equator as depicted in ANH. It would make sense to then test it on Naboo. But obviously it failed. Why? Did whatsisface, Gungan voiced by Brian Blessed, deflect the beam with a shake of his massive jowls? Perhaps. More likely, the prototype was insufficiently shielded against Jar-Jar's annoyingness and self-destructed.
 
Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :
 
There is, of course, a Star Wars novel about this very subject, minus the Gungans, or indeed any prequel references. Why did I buy so many of these?
 
Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :
 
I've just bought them and flicked through, and I thought that the Han treading on Jabba's tail bit was much improved. Still not great, but better.

And then, being ultra cool, I looked for the most important change in all the movies...the removal of the English lettering on the tractor beam transmitter. Yes.

Oh, and I looked at that bit where Obi-Wan's lightsaber disappeared (I can't believe they didn't fix that in the SE). And...it still looks rubbish. 10 years and two new versions, and that was the best that they could do? Pah, I say.
 
Posted by Kazeite (Member # 970) on :
 
Not to mention that contrast and color equalizing processes left Vader with pink saber [Roll Eyes]
 
Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :
 
It wasn't colour and contrast equalising. They re-rotoscoped the effects. Which could be the same thing, I don't know. To be honest, I had trouble seeing any colour in most of the lightsabre scenes in ANH originally.
 
Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :
 
This reminds me that I came across a collection of side by side comparisons that I thought was more pleasing to the eye than those previously made available here. (The website itself, I mean.) Unless it has been made previously available here, in which case, woah, spooky.

http://www.dvdanswers.com/sw1.html
 
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
 
I don't feel like going and looking through long lists of alterations, so maybe someone already knows the answer to this: I noticed an external shot of the hangar on Yavin that I didn't recognize. It was a tall stone building with jungle on the sides. Was this new to the DVD, a SE thing, or was it always there?
 
Posted by Nim (Member # 205) on :
 
It's always been there. Like a small plaza, right?

And Vader's saber has always been pink in the Obi-faceoff. I haven't watched the new SE:s but I had hoped they'd fixed Obi-Wan's dying saber.
Funny about that scene, I always thought Vader was rude to have ignited his saber before Kenobi arrived.
It would've been cooler if he too had lit up just when they met.
 
Posted by The Mighty Monkey of Mim (Member # 646) on :
 
Heaven forbid that Vader be rude... [Eek!]
 
Posted by Nim (Member # 205) on :
 
Well you know, Honor Among Fucks and all that.
Palpatine acknowledging Luke's resolve, "So be it, Jedi", Raoh's eloquent retort to Shin in Fist of the North Star, "I didn't plan on dealing with you at this time but if you're that eager to die I'll oblige you".
 
Posted by MarianLH (Member # 1102) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Nim:
I haven't watched the new SE:s but I had hoped they'd fixed Obi-Wan's dying saber.

You're actually looking forward to it? OMG, I feel so sorry for you. Yeah, they, um, "fixed" that scene. Watch it with a good friend who can comfort you afterward.


Marian

This random sig quote is brought to you by George Lucas:
"A special effect is just a tool, a means of telling a story. A special effect without a story is a pretty boring thing."
-From Star Wars To Jedi, (1983)
 
Posted by Nim (Member # 205) on :
 
Um, if they fixed it, why would I need comforting? That's when I would be glad. And your "sympathy" is out of proportion.
 
Posted by MarianLH (Member # 1102) on :
 
Um, I didn't say it was fixed, I said it was "fixed."

I gotta stop trying to display a personality. People always take it the wrong way.


Marian
 
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
 
Damn, Nim.
You're gonna die a lonely lonely man if you respond all women that way. [Wink]
 
Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :
 
The "fix" really isn't good at all. It's kinda like...a glow added to the outside of the stick. Or something. It looks wrong.

quote:
Originally posted by Nim:
Well you know, Honor Among Fucks and all that.
Palpatine acknowledging Luke's resolve, "So be it, Jedi"...

You thought that was honour? I thought that was Palpatine spitting at Luke. "Fine, if you're going to call yourself a Jedi, you're going to see how outmatched you are, you snot-nosed bitch."
 
Posted by MarianLH (Member # 1102) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by PsyLiam:
The "fix" really isn't good at all. It's kinda like...a glow added to the outside of the stick. Or something. It looks wrong.

So so wrong. Ironically, when we followed up by watching TESB, the yellow flashes are there, too. They always have been there. ROTJ too. Only there, they don't...suck.


Marian

This random sig quote is brought to you by the FineScale Modeler Forums:
"Helicopters don't fly, they beat the air into submission."
 
Posted by Nim (Member # 205) on :
 
Watched it, Obi's saber-glitch is much better now, less objectionable. They fixed the sounds for Vader's saber too, now it turns on like in ROTJ and that of Darth Maul's, the original TESB-vadersab sounded like it could blow.

For some reason though, Luke's saber is green in the first practice-shot aboard the Falcon in ANH, what gives?
It reminded me of seeing Superman's suit become green for some shots of the movie.

I thought Temuera Morrison would be an awful Fett compared to Jeremy Bullock, but I must say his TESB-lines were quite allright, "He's worth a lot to me!".

And they finally fixed Solo's magical vest! In the closeups before his freeze, when he says "I know", they've dyed it white so as to look like his shirt. Nice.

Watching the old trilogy in DVD-format just does further justice to these already fantastic movies, and I'm just not being sentimental.
The scenery, stages and buildings of these movies are brilliant, I found myself staring at Cloud City's walls and slide-doors, it's so tight, clean and believable.

As I've grown a lot since last I looked at these movies (ten years ago), I also have a newfound appreciation for the character development, especially Han and Leia's cat and mouse games at Hoth and in space worm. I never noticed the dry humor and sassiness before.

Leia: "Sometimes you make things so difficult for me."
Solo: "Yeah, I do, I really do. *looks down at shoes, microscopic grin* You could be a bit nicer, though."
 
Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :
 
I find it interesting (and by interesting, I mean so in a fairly sad and pathetic manner) than Han's magically appearing vest mistake isn't actually a mistake at all. Apparently, it was a shadow all along that just happened to look like a vest. Although Lucas was apparently sick enough of having it pointed out to him that it was still changed.

The thing that annoys me about the Obi-Wan saber fix was that it seems a bit...half hearted. If they were going to fix it, couldn't they have gone all the way?

Still, the lightsabers do look nicer. Apart from Luke's being all wrong coloured and stuff.
 
Posted by Nim (Member # 205) on :
 
This was the first time Yoda's death got to me, I'm getting old.
Also, ROTJ ewok party with the song they added in -97, I've finally gotten accustomed to it so now that gets me too. For some reason it reminds me of Peruvian music.

The Hayden paste job could be better, his head seemed to slide around in the collar somewhat and he doesn't look as happy and "salvationed" as Shaw did, more like "yeah, yeah, I'm goodguy now. *sigh*"
I think he was going for the "proud of my son"-look, like he was focusing on Luke, but it didn't reach all the way.
At least he's good-looking in that hair, at least, the bastard. Must get the wax he uses.

I forgot to mention that I went to the swedish Sci-Fi convention two weeks ago, met David Prowse, Warwick Davis and Ron Perlman. As I'd expexted, Perlman was the best experience.

It was day 2, so there were no lines to the tables they sat at, so I got to chat with Ron about Hellboy and other things.
When I saw Hellboy, I was amazed that they played Tom Waits' "Heartattack and Vine" for Hellboy's intro scene, since I've connected Waits & Perlman ever since seeing "Bram Stoker's Dracula". They look alike, act somewhat alike (to me).
He said that he did like Tom Waits and that they had discussed what kind of music Hellboy would listen to in his spare time, and apparently it was Tom Waits and Al Green.

Also, talked a bit about "The Last Supper", in which he did a marvelous but ambiguous conservative. We managed to connect it with "Hellboy" in different ways.
 
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
 
"...his head seemed to slide around in the collar somewhat..."

I could be wrong, but wasn't it a complete replacement? I mean, they didn't stick HC's head on SS's body. I'm pretty sure that was HC's full head and body in that shot.
 
Posted by Nim (Member # 205) on :
 
Yeah, you're probably right.

Hm, checked IMDB, Christensen is 6'1", Prowse is (was) 6'7". Mighty big shoes to fill.
I think somewhere on Curtis Saxton's SW-page there's an essay which theorizes that Vader's legs might be prosthetics as well, for jumping and such. That might explain the 6-inch boost. :.
 
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
 
Jumping? He has the Force for that.
 
Posted by Omega (Member # 91) on :
 
Still, the lightsabers do look nicer

Check the equivalent articles for V and VI.

Vader's. Sabre. Is pink.

Pink.

My school has just bought a top-o'-the-line desktop system for video editing. They don't NEED it, but they have it. I'm going to make use of it by taking these mostly-stellar-sounding DVDs and editing out the crap, replacing some things with earlier versions. No Jabba scene in IV, Greedo doesn't shoot at all, and most importantly, VADER'S SABRE WILL NOT BE PINK, DAMN YOU!!!!!
 
Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :
 
"I think somewhere on Curtis Saxton's SW-page there's an essay which theorizes that Vader's legs might be prosthetics as well, for jumping and such."

Go-go Gadget shoes!
 
Posted by Kazeite (Member # 970) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Omega:
Check the equivalent articles for V and VI.

Vader's. Sabre. Is pink.

Pink.

I share your pain. [Frown]

quote:

I'm going to make use of it by taking these mostly-stellar-sounding DVDs and editing out the crap, replacing some things with earlier versions. No Jabba scene in IV, Greedo doesn't shoot at all, and most importantly, VADER'S SABRE WILL NOT BE PINK, DAMN YOU!!!!!

Kewl. Don't forget to restore censored DS troopers getting hit, and fix the TESB turbolaser blast destroying asteroid before it touches it. [Cool]

Also, have you noticed that Solo actually shoots two times at Greedo? [Big Grin]
 


© 1999-2024 Charles Capps

Powered by UBB.classic™ 6.7.3