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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Cartman: [QB] To be blunt, if this "longtime member" doesn't even have the guts to name these people in Flare's supposed newbie-deathsquad or come forward himself with concrete examples of true unjustified bullying towards new members [and by "members" I mean those members who actually contributed something of interest (like the oft-mentioned Irishman) and whose first, second, and third posts weren't 1) promotion of some website slash product slash conspiracy theory slash whatever or 2) written by someone still in kindergarten], then I have to question how serious the problem you're perceiving here really is. Furthermore, the reason Flare attracts very few new peeps is because it is small, and the reason it's small is because it isn't well-known due to having sat far outside the usual online sci-fi circles for seven years, not because it has a preceeding omnipresent reputation of being elitist. You want to discuss Heinlein? Then start a damn thread about him instead of going the lone IM route with one or two of your contacts. You might not get much feedback from the regulars, but at least it adds activity to the board you say you care about which could also just be enough to lure any new lurkers out of their shell and begin posting. As for the fact that you feel you can't introduce your friends to this place because of some indiscriminate filter you think exists to purposely generate an air of collective hostility and drive them away... how about you let them decide for themselves whether the atmosphere is breathable or toxic? I get the impression you want to protect your own ass from any possible resentment for associating yourself with a bunch of "forum GODS" (your words, not mine) more than you want to save them from a potential bad experience, when in reality (assuming they're not spamming retards and have a decent command of English) I don't see why they wouldn't be welcomed exactly the same way you and I were, by people without a god- or any other form of superiority-complex (well, except Tim). You say there's no point, I say you're overreacting to a problem that in large part has nothing to do with your grievances AT ALL. The elite selection thing maybe needs to be reigned in here and there, but it's not the cause of Flare's stagnation and you know it. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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