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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Omega: [QB] Ziyal: "Dead men learn no lessons." That particular line was a joke. Bad taste, I know, but... "According to your definition, name me one country today that hasn't "fallen away from God." Does God just not care anymore?" OK, the PEOPLE, then. Back then, a country was essentially held together by everyone believing in the same gods, thus if the country wasn't paying attention to God's laws, then the Jews weren't. The Hebrews were God's chosen people, and they turned away from Him. If you gave someone millions of dollars under the condition that they wouldn't spend it all for at least a year, and they went out and spent it all in a week, wouldn't you wait until you thought they'd changed before giving them more? "Sounds an awful lot like REVENGE to me." Revenge for what? What can you possibly do to hurt God? Try punishment. "I sure noticed a lot of people not doing "what God told them to" in this world. Surely you don't need me to site examples, do you?" One would assume that they'll be dealt with later. You'll notice that the only people struck dead in the Bible did something that God said He would strike them dead for. If I'm wrong here, let me know. Christ never said anything about striking people dead for anything. Sol: "This is a theological problem that people much wiser than myself have been struggling with for ages. How do you reconcile Jesus' "Suffer the little children to come unto me" to the OT's "Only if they don't call anyone names"." Again, the difference is that the people were not doing what God said. "To make a crude analogy, this is the same as catching your child writing on the wall and chopping their arm off for it. " It'd be more like your adolescent teen, to whom you've given a set of rules but refuse to interfere in his life, spending his money on prostitutes, ignoring everything you say, and killing his brothers and sisters. You'd probably disown the kid, then if you ran into him again, treat him just like anyone else (show no mercy). Are you equating the President to God? (Doesn't Bill wish?) And it's all His to begin with. He can do whatever He wants. Cargile: I find that entire post insulting. 1of2: "How very "just and merciful" of Him." It was just, and you only get mercy if you ask for it. "I'm sure that's a great consolation to his murdered sons and daughters." Satan killed them, if you remember the story, not God. 2 Thess. 2:11-12: If you don't listen to what God says, when it comes time to choose sides, you're gonna be on the wrong one. Isa. 45:7: God is all-powerful and can lift you up or fry you like a salmon. Amos 3:6: Everything has a cause. Extending the analogies, if God char-broils a city, He has a reason. "Hell. The threat of Hell negates free will, at least for all who believe in it." To again use the adolescent analogy, it's like letting a kid do whatever he wants, but giving him a set of rules to follow. He still has free will, and can choose to follow the rules or not to, but you're gonna punish him if he doesn't. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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