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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Tahna Los: [QB] [b]Omega:[/b] [i]So maybe we should just have laws preventing people on parol from buying weapons. What's that you say? We already have laws like that? Well then, why not enforce them? That's how the liberal idea of gun control laws works: pass new law, don't enforce law, say "law doesn't work, must need new law", repeat step one.[/i] You have very low opinions on Liberals, don't you? It seems apparent that Conservatives attack Liberals for every small mistake. Liberals do NOT do what you say. Contrary to what you think, Gun Control is enforced up here in Canada. How well? well, admittedly, I don't know, but don't hold me to that. The reason why gun control is doing so badly down in the USA is that your conservatives actually sabotage each and every single gun control law that your government to make society a better place. I just heard that Los Angeles has run a gun-show convention out of town. Good for them. [b]Baloo:[/b] [i]If the objective is not eliminating violent crime, but simply eliminating guns, then perhaps the tactic of not enforcing existing laws makes sense. If you can continue to convince enough people that "since the new law doesn't work" you can sell the need to pass another, more draconian law. Eventually, unless enough people catch on, you can pass the law you wanted to pass in the first place, disarming all the people who weren't making trouble anyway.[/i] I'd have to agree with this point, although I don't support it. Sure, people wants to own guns, fine. Just abide by the rules. Abide by the Gun-Control rules which won't hurt you, but make your home a better place to live. I'll give you credit for the fact that you are very conscious about keeping your guns away from your son until he is old enough. But how old will he be when you plan to train him about proper gun usage? 12? 13? Here in Ontario, the Conservatives passed a law allowing kids as young as 12 to start firearms training. Their intention is to train people about proper firearms usage. But this may backfire: pretty soon, you may have a troubled youth with advanced firearms knowledge (thanks to the new law), walking through with guns under their trenchcoats and causing yet another Columbine. You want proper firearms usage? Simple. Don't use them. Unless you're a dedicated police officer. [b]First of Two:[/b] [i]Take Minneapolis. A fair city, as cities go, low gang membership, etc. However, 45% of murders in Minneapolis from 1994-1997 were classified by the police as "gang-related." 45.4% of those arrested for all those murders were gang members. On average, the 234 Minneapolis murderers had 7.4 prior arrests, including 175 drug offenses, 173 violent crimes, 169 property crimes, and 82 prior weapons offenses. 31.4% were on felony probation. (Kleck, ibid.) seems to me it isn't the guns that are the problem.[/i] Pardon me while a shoot a big hole in your statistic, but yes, guns ARE the problem, especially how accessible they are to these gang members who shoot each other and any innocent bystanders that get in the way. Proper enforcement of Gun Control is supposed to deal with this, to make it a lot harder for them to obtain these weapons (and more punishing when they do). Too bad for you guys though, those damned Republicans just drilled your most recent attempt to make your place a safer place to live. To my knowledge, the gun control law is supposed to ban lethal weapons like machine guns, certain handguns and the like. For all other weapons, they are to be registered and a background check done on the owner. Let's compare this to getting a car: Like guns, you need to register your cars as well. And like guns, a background check has to be done to see if you are legally able to drive a car. Like our Prime Minister said quite a while ago: "We make people register their cars, why not make them register their guns?" Where's the trouble in that? [/QB][/QUOTE]
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