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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Omega: [QB] [i]Which is the worse crime? Getting a blow job in the Oval Office or giving two planeloads of Stinger missles to Iranian terrorists? Ask a Republican, they'll either go with the blow job or claim, as Omega does, that Iran-Contra never happened.[/i] Read what you're responding to. You'd look like less of an idiot. I challenge you to find me one person here that thinks that oral sex is, or even should be, a crime. Now you tell me: is it a crime to LIE about oral sex while under oath before a federal grand jury? Because that's exactly what Bill Clinton did. As for Iran-Contra, again, read, or you look like an idiot. I never said that Iran-Contra didn't happen. I said that Ollie North went to prison for his crimes, for crying out loud! It HAPPENED! Obviously! But Reagan and Bush were NOT involved, as Jeff claimed they were. [i]Well, to the best of my knowledge, there is no law or legal precedent explaining what constitutes sexual relations.[/i] Remember, he was sworn to tell the WHOLE truth. He purposefully withheld information relevant to the question, in a consious attempt to deceive the jury. This is perjury. [i]Essentially, we the people of the United States had to endure a witch-hunt[/i] Witch-hunts are when you try to obtain convictions, the truth be damned. This man COMMITED A CRIME. [i]at a cost of $80 million[/i] Hang on, since when is it our money? Bill said it wasn't. [i]that yeilded nothing on Bill Clinton[/i] Aside from the fact that he commited perjury. [i]Republicans desperately wanted control of White House back from Jimmy Carter. So, they struck a deal with the Iranian terrorists holding 44 American hostages.[/i] Um... no? There was no chance that Carter was going to win that election. The Iranians had already decided to let the hostages go, and simply waited 'til Reagan was sworn in as a slap at Carter. [i]This can be corroborated by the evidence supporting a negotiation in Paris in October 1980 between George H. W. Bush and leaders of the Islamic Jihad. The Iranians would release the hostages in exchange for two planeloads of Stinger missles.[/i] This is a logical leap that defies all reason. Why shouldn't Bush have negotiated with the hostage-takers? Former director of the CIA, soon to be VP. Remember, these people REALLY didn't like Carter, so someone not attached to that administration would be preferable. What does that have to do with a possible missile deal? [i]You cannot claim that Iran-Contra did not happen because it did.[/i] You can't claim that I said it didn't, because I didn't. [i]Either he was lying or he was so ineffective a leader that he did not notice his aides involved in illegal activities[/i] Or perhaps he was so EFFECTIVE a leader that he trusted his people to do their jobs, without his micromanaging everything. Ever think of that? [i]After Reagan won the presidency, the Iranians got their missles and Americans got their hostages. And numerous laws were broken[/i] As I understand it, the law broken was the fact that the aid given to the Contras was covert, something that had been made illegal. I don't think the missiles had anything to do with North's conviction, though I could be wrong. [i]They resort to rumors and half-truths and elevate them actual facts and proof of wrong-doing.[/i] He commited perjury. Do you deny this? [i]At the same time, they ignore evidence of actual wrong-doing and devastation to the US national security on the part of Reagan, Bush the Smarter, Weinberger, and others.[/i] If there's evidence of Reagan or Bush breaking laws, you certainly haven't presented it. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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