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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Tora Ziyal: [QB] [i]Which is EXACTLY like homosexuality and the will of God as stated in the Bible. People may act in a self-destructive way without knowing or believing that that way of life is self destructive. The only difference between the scenarios is that you personally acknowledge the incestuous abusive relationship to be damaging, but you don't recognize a homosexual one as such. If you believe that they are, the two are perfectly analogous.[/i] I do realize that is what it may seem from your point of view. But I have not seen any real-world evidence in which gay relationships are self-destructive (other than ways in which unhealthy straight relationships can be as well). Care to provide some? [i]Was that intended to be a joke, or are you making a serious point? I'm lost.[/i] I can go over it more slowly if you like. 1. You're saying if you want it badly enough, you can make yourself gay. 2. Historically, western society and religion have been heavily against homosexuality, as they are today. By societal pressures I mean the pressure to have a boyfriend/girlfriend, to get married, and to have children. 3. I'm saying since these pressures have been in place for the longest time, what makes one WANT to be gay, if we are all born straight? You know, the arguments on this board alone should hint at the unreliability of language as a method of communication. How do you expect to understand the true meaning and intention of someone speaking thousands of years ago in a different language when we don't even fully understand each other? Sure, sure, you're gonna say, "because the Bible was divinely inspired." I think I'm going to answer my own questions from now on with what I predict you'd say, just so you'd say something different. I have no doubt the Bible was divinely inspired, just as I have no doubt Conversations with God was divinely inspired, or the Koran, or the Bhagavad Gita. But I wouldn't take any one of them literally and without question because they all have had human filters. That is, the people who wrote them are limited by the context of the world and culture in which they live, whereas God is not limited by such contexts. People today are being inspired by God still, but if somebody came out and said she wrote "The Bible 2", would people go and take every word of it literally because it was "divinely inspired"? Hardly. But would they look over it and see if there are good things in it? Probably. What makes a divine inspiration different just because it happened thousands of years ago? What makes the writers different? Maybe the only difference is that the distance allows us to not see them as human anymore. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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