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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Raw Cadet: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Wraith: [qb] . . . telling the king of England that [b]affairs[/b] within his own realm were his problem, not the Pope's.[/qb][/QUOTE]Pun intended? :) [QUOTE] [qb]I am always amused when Protestants I know claim adamantly that Catholics are not Christians[/QUOTE]I think that what people are refering to when they do this is the whole salvation through faith alone thing. Catholics believe salvation is through faith joined with good works, protestants (most, anyway)in salvation through faith alone.[/qb][/QUOTE] If I may add and clarify, and I would have to check my Chatechism to be sure, I believe current Catholic teachings acknowledge salvation is only through the grace of God (thus, a faithful Catholic can accurately argue his or her faith allows for the salvation of all persons as salvation ultimately depends on God('s grace(not one's religion, etc.)). Where I believe (good) works comes in is with the often forgotten, but still "official," Catholic concept of purgatory. For those who are not familiar with purgatory, a simple explanation is this: it is the "place" one goes after death "where" one's soul is cleansed before "entering" heaven. If one has spent his or her life performing good works, for goodness sake, not for the purpose of passing Peter and the pearly gates faster, presumably such a soul requires less cleansing and will, indeed, reach heaven quicker than say one of those scam televangelists. Perhaps some of you have also heard of indulgences; purgatory is where they come in. If I am remembering correctly a few years ago the Pope offered indulgences, in simple terms, less time in purgatory, for smokers who gave up the habit. I am sorry if I have bored anyone. As a religious person I appreciate when the subject of religion can be discussed without (complete) contempt and ridicule. Thank you. The letters of Paul are undoubtedly 100 percent divinely inspired; however, maybe he did not like hats. If God started inspiring me to write his word the Book of Raw Cadet might, in its final version, end up including things like "take your crying babies or whiny brats to the cryroom," and "turn your cell phone off during mass." Thus, I could be divinely inspired even if the resulting product includes some parts not of divine origin. By the way, and, actually somewhat related to the original topic, today my hometown (or the county it is in, actually) became the latest government institution to issue marriage licenses to same-sex couples. As my state is one of the few that does not explicitly state marriage is only a union between one man and one woman the legality of the issuing is seemingly on much more solid ground than in San Francisco, so it could be interesting to see what happens. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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