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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Jay the Obscure: [QB] David, I�m not being at all unfair to Mr. Brooks. Mr. Brooks wrote: [QUOTE]When Bush talks about the world he hopes to create, he talks first about spreading freedom. What he's really talking about is a decentralized world. Individuals would be free to live as they chose, in their own nations, carving out their own destinies.[/QUOTE]That is not what's going on in Iraq. You don't invade another country to bring the people democracy. And if you should invade another country on the claim of bringing [i]them[/i] democracy...if [i]you[/i] decide to effect a change of [i]their[/i] system of government. In doing so, [i]you[/i] use forces external to [i]their[/i] system. As a result, you loose the right to high-minded ideological claim that the people you invaded are carving out their own destinies. No matter how much one might say Iyad Allawi or the Iraqis are in charge, American fingerprints are all over the new system. So their new system turns into something of a version of our system; a version of our democracy; a version of our free-market ideology. These are concepts which one may strongly believe in, and argue for passionately, but that doesn't make the concepts or ideals theirs. And in an age of terror not connected to the nation-state, international law and police action can and should play an important role in any anti-terror strategy. You can�t invade everyone. It�s quite clear that the Bush Doctrine is only for use in Iraq. So we�re not going to invade Iran, or North Korea or Saudi Arabia, or any of the other countries with bad people in charge, with oppressed peoples, or that pose a threat to international peace and security to bring them democracy. If you can�t invade to bring democracy...then that poo-pooed concept of international cooperation looks better and better. And I�m unsure what to make of the mugged by reality comment. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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