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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Jay the Obscure: [QB] David, <ol> [*]I don�t see this as the dichotomy you apparently see it as. Bringing democracy to the people of the world is a laudable goal. And yet if that goal is not pursued through a strategy of invasion, there is no reason to suggest that the only alternative is the creation of an isolationist fortress America. As an alternative, keep in mind that American economic power and cultural influence are strong influences that have recreated the face of world culture in recent years. [*]The logical extension of this ideology-spreading policy is that we take self-determination away from the people of the world. We Americans know what�s best for them. You can go all Francis Fukuyama on me and argue that liberal democracy and a free market economy is the best and there is no real progressing past it...you might believe that passionately, but who gave us the right to remake everyone else in our image? I'm waiting for a member of the spread-democracy-by-the-sword contingent to show me the public debate where we as a nation decided this ideology-spreading policy was the thing to do. Personally, I think of what has transpired in Iraq as the actions of the cabal that has taken over American foreign policy decision making and includes the likes of Dick Chenney and Donald Rumsfeld from the [URL=http://www.newamericancentury.org/]Project for the New American Century[/URL]. Mr. Bush couldn�t be straight with the American people about the cost and long-term entanglements of such policy, so he talked up the WMD and Saddam is a bad man angle. Now we�re there and losing soldiers in Fallujah, its all democracy-creation-all-the-time. I wonder when the conservatives who didn�t want us the be the policeman of the world in the 2000 election, are going to wake up and realize that this new ideology-spreading policy makes us what they didn�t want us to be. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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