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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Timo: [QB] Well, the RNZ was formed back in 2161, after the Roms lost a war to Earth. They went unseen for the following century, during which the UFP is known to have visited such distant places as Rigel or Canopus or even Deneb. It would only stand to reason that the RNZ was originally agreed to be of roughly the size of the Earthspace of that era, but not significantly larger than that (the loser of the war wouldn't get *that* much in concession). Later expansion would then have allowed Earth/UFP to completely surround the Romulans, who clearly didn't put up a resistance since we know no contact was made during the century of 2161-2265. In contrast, it is unlikely that Romulan territory grew at all between 2161 and TOS - Starfleet ran wargames at Canopus, which in all likelihood is on the "backside" of Romulus if the rough maps we have seen in the episodes are any indication (Romulus supposedly lies "east" of Earth, and Canopus is "far east" - 200 ly or so, when the nearside Romulan border must be closer than that to allow for "First Contact" travel times). So Starfleet should have been able to note if the Romulans expanded in a direction away from Earth, and should have taken action. And as said, we already know Starfleet did no such thing. We don't know if the Romulans have expanded out of the RNZ or renegotiated its size and shape *after* TOS. In any case, their ships seem to move freely outside the RNZ nowadays, and actually did so in DS9 and Voyager references ("Paradise", "Eye of a Needle") even before they formed the current military alliance. The Klingon NZ probably never enclosed either the KE or the UFP, but was just a surface erected between the empires where they touched. But the Romulan NZ could logically be a bubble that fully enclosed the RSE ("Balance of Terror" even explicitly states that it separates the planets Romulus and Remus from the rest of the galaxy, as of 2265, which would seem to support the assumption of a full bubblelike enclosure). Even if the RNZ completely surrounds the RSE, the UFP need not touch that RNZ from every side. Parts of the RNZ could border "empty" space, and movement across those parts would still be theoretically forbidden even if Starfleet wasn't there to enforce the treaty. Other parts of the RNZ could border on former (vintage 2161) "empty" space that actually is part of the Klingon Empire now, and again Starfleet would be unable to prevent movement across that stretch of the Zone (or to prevent the constant border wars that apparently rage between those two empires). Timo Saloniemi [/QB][/QUOTE]
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