Yes, that seed of an idea has been slowly growing in my brain ever since I stumbled on that Deep Space Nine thread where someone suggested that a Alpha/Beta Quadrant map by me could perhaps settle an argument. Not having one, I couldn't help, thus this project.

However, I cannot do this alone. I require your help. I need to compile as much data on the structure of the Alpha/Beta Quadrants as is humanly possible, as stated onscreen. Any piece of data would be appreciated. For each, I need:

Required:

- Starting point.
- Destination.

Any (or all) of the following:

- Travel time.
- Warp factor.
- Heading (not bearing, bearings are useless).

Or, if a place is mentioned to be near another place, you could mention that.

Be sure to include the series and episode from which your nugget(s) of information originates.

Information on the location of real stars mentioned in Star Trek would also be of immense help.

Of course, there are some contradictions I will most likely have to gloss over (like the Earth-Bajor travel time problem), but I'll do my best.

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The above post was mulled-over, composed, and posted during time Tom would have better spent on his plethora of homework and homework-related exercises. Now don't you feel special?

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The Tal Shiar project... I'd forgotten about that... How far did you guys get on that, anyway?

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Here are a few:

Romulan Space must be close to the Federation - in particular Earth.

1. For a 'war' to be conducted in low-warp ships
2. For the sector numbering Terran System sector 001 the Romulan neutral zone sector numbers 30 I think.
3. In Past Tense - when the timeline had been changed - the Romulans were the closest spacefaring civilisations - they had settlements on the usually densly populated Rigel system planets.

The Borg ship from BOBW - had to approach Earth from the area of Wolf 359 (The Best of Both Worlds)

Klingon Sector numbers are in the low hundreds... and the Cardassian Sector numbers are in the 10 000's (The Wounded)

The Klingon Empire DEFINATELY boarders with the UFP and the RSE. but not necessarily with the CU - since the Klingon ships in "The Way of the Warrior" had had a long journey... and that it was going to be hard for the Klingons to keep the Territory they had captured from the Cardassians. (The Way of the Warrior) (Broken Link) re Arcanis (The Trouble With Tribbles) re deep space station K7 - the K maybe a reference to the Klingon Neutral Zone. The Battle of Klack'Dkel Bracht - (The Sword of Kahless) Khitomer (The Undiscovered Country), (Heart of Glory) et al

The Federation boarders with the Gorn
Cestus III is still a Federation colony and is on the other side of the Federation from Space Station Deep Space Nine. (Family Business) (Arena)

The Ferengi have to be closer to the Cardassians and Far away enough from the Federation to not have contact until the beginning of the year 41000 (Encounter at Farpoint) Quark's presence on Terok Nor (Emissary et al.)

The Ferengi are 'far away from home' if they are in the Romulan Neutral Zone as well as Talarians... (Heart Of Glory)

The Ferengi must lie close to the Breen - since the Breen traded warp technology secrets for their poles and several icy moons.

The Klaestron - both members of the UFP and allies with The Cardassian Union - must lie close to the Cardassian Union. (The have a long friend ship) (Dax) It must also be close to DS9 for the quick arrival of the people in question in "Dax". Also convenient for Dr. Bashir's replacement by a shapeshifter when he was supposed to be going to a conference there.

Praxis and thus Q'Onos must lie close to the Alpha/Beta Quadrant boarder or actually be in the Beta Quadrant... For Sulu and the Excelsior to be close enough to be picking up the distress signals from Brigadier Kurla. (The Undiscovered Country)

Cardassia and Talaria lie on the "Western Side" of the UFP - according to the Encylopaedia.

The Tholian Assembly must lie close to the Klingon Empire to be pulled into conflict in the advent of a Klingon civil war. They must also lie close to the Romulans and the Federation to need to be included in Discussions between the two powers. (Homefront)

The inner worlds of the Federation probably include Vulcan, Andor, Tellar, Earth, the Rigel system and Berengaria. (In the Cards)

I'm sure there are others on my list - since this was all off by heart...

Andrew

Oh the Hypurian System must lie close to or now be part of the Ferengi Alliance - since the war between the two worlds and the now apparent 'slave' situation of the Hypurian people. (The Nagus) (The Rules of Aquisition) et al.

The Xendi Sabu system probably lies outside the boundaries of the Federation and possibly with in the boundaries of the Ferengi Alliance. (The Battle)

The Neberrite Alliance is VERY far away from DS9. (The Way of the Warrior)

Galornden Core is in or close to the Romulan Neutral Zone. (The Enemy) (Unification)

Romulus/Remus and Vulcan must not lie too far away from one another for the Ships in "Unification" To get very far.

Andrew

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"Who wouldn't be the one you love
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The inner worlds of the Federation probably include Vulcan, Andor, Tellar, Earth, the Rigel system and Berengaria. (In the Cards

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Who live on Berengaria?

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But wait, wasn't that an Animated Series reference? Wasn't Berengaria the planet with those dragons?

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M. Doughty

As for the Tal Shiar Cartographic Survey, its been long dead. We got as far as any three people get when they try to take on a task that is just too ridiculously large. Get the picture. Sol, what stuff do you still have left from that?

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"Blind faith is the crutch of fools"

So far.

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"Oh, it's an anti-anti-WTO song. It's essentially a pro-Starbucks song. I saw this picture of a guy sticking his foot through a plate-glass window in a Starbucks in Seattle, and he was wearing a Nike. Man, couldn't you just change your shoes?"
--
M. Doughty

First contact with the Klingons happened at least 150 years after first ontact with the Romulans. (Encyc & TOS, The Balace of Terror)

Tzenkethi must be close to Federation and also be close to DS9 since the Defiant was sent there to 'fly the flag' why not anyone else... (The Adversary)

I reckon that Talos V - is close to Earth - for the SS Columbia?? to get there. (The Cage/The Menagerie)

I reckon Qualor II and Vulcan and the Romulan Neutral Zone are close by to each other (Unification)

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"Who wouldn't be the one you love
Who wouldn't stand inside your love." - Stand Inside Your Love, The Smashing Pumpkins

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"Who wouldn't be the one you love
Who wouldn't stand inside your love." - Stand Inside Your Love, The Smashing Pumpkins