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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Mucus: [QB] Its worth considering that you're a fan of well-written TV shows, but the observation that you can't name a single SF show aside from DS9, tends to discount that fact. While we can agree to disagree on B5 (In fact, I've gone off the idea of just defending B5. Its more obvious that you have bigger beefs with SF as a whole) Saying that all science fiction shows have bad writing aside from DS9 and TOS is just a cop-out, if only due to the realities of writing. The writers of those shows didn't write DS9/TOS and just stop. They went on to other jobs, if only to pay the rent. (Jobs after TOS that included *gasp* B5. Yes, TOS writers wrote B5 episodes too) Now I'm going out on a limb here, but name me a single real SF show you enjoy aside from DS9 and TOS. :cool: [QUOTE]...if you spend the whole episode with the characters debating the specs of the Galaxy-Class Super Dreadnaught Command Ship, the fan-boys will cream themselves, but everyone else will say "utter and total crap." [/QUOTE]Well duh. Like everything else, SF has good implementations and bad implementations. I've listed some of the good implementations of SF in my previous post, many of which don't have memorable characters. Blade Runner, Foundation, A Canticle for Leibowitz, Dune, etc. Your assertion is like discounting a definition of drama involving characters because drama "can" include shows where characters can spend an entire episode exploring teenage angst (*cough* Dawson's Creek) and *actually* creaming themselves :) [/QB][/QUOTE]
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