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[QUOTE]Originally posted by The Mighty Monkey of Mim: [QB] I agree with several of your points, (this film did [i]not[/i] score high with me :mad: ) but there are also a number for which a counter-response automatically comes into my head: [QUOTE]Originally posted by Cartmaniac: [b] *What use do the Romulans have for dilithium? Their ships aren't powered by M/AM. [i]Duh.[/i] [/QUOTE][/b] According to Rick Sternbach's not-quite-canon-but-close-enough [URL=http://flare.solareclipse.net/cgi2/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=6;t=002065;p=2#000015]article on Romulan propulsion systems [/URL] from [i]Star Trek: The Magazine[/i], they still use dilithium for regulation and focusing of power. (See diagram on third page.) Aside from this, there's also the issue of dilithium being a valuable commodity for interstellar trade. [QUOTE][b]*The E-E's being pursued by the most heavily armed warship in the quadrant, so it enters a nebula that interferes with communications and sensors. [i]Duh.[/i][/QUOTE][/b] Tee hee...they were [i]hiding[/i]... ;) [QUOTE][b]*Why not just fly the aeroshuttle from place to place? Why bother with a buggy? [i]Duh.[/i][/QUOTE][/b] Agreed. Very lame and un-cool. [QUOTE][b]*The alien buggies: who was behind their wheels? Why did they attack the crew of the Enterprise, aside from scaring off the landing party?[/b][/QUOTE]Agreed. Not to mention that the whole thing was a glaring Prime Directive violation on the part of Picard and company. [b] [QUOTE]*The Romulans take their "matter of internal security" rather lightly by sending two totally outclassed Warbirds to deal with the situation. [i]Duh.[/i][/b][/QUOTE]Well, the [i]Valdore[/i]-types seemed to be pretty powerful, it's just that the [i]Scimitar[/i] was even more so. I doubt that the Romulan fleet had anything that could match it. Plus, I can't remember exactly but weren't Donatra and her cohorts acting sort of on their own rather than under orders from higher-up? [QUOTE][b]*Where did B-4 come from, anyhow? If he was built by Dr. Soong, why was he never mentioned by the good doctor? Where and when did the Romulans find him? No reference whatsoever to Data's OTHER brother/prototype, Lore. [i]Duh.[/i][/b][/QUOTE]Agreed. [QUOTE][b]*Highly tangential observation: why does Shinzon have to wear that shiny latex overcoat 24/7? Is it to prevent us from identifying with him? I was kind of, erh, pertubed by the creaking every time he so much as twitched a muscle.[/b][/QUOTE]Agreed. [i]"Because it looks kewel and menacing and evil-like."[/i] [b] [QUOTE]*What happened to the Romulan military after Shinzon's coup? Surely Romulus isn't defended by Canada, like Earth? [i]Duh.[/i][/b][/QUOTE]I thought the deal was that he got a lot of the bigwig military dudes on his side beforehand (those who were hungry for conquest of the Federation) and they supported him in the coup. [b] [QUOTE]*DS9 presented the notion that Romulus and Earth became loose allies during the Dominon War, which is thrown out the window and adds to the very detached feel Nemesis gives off. [i]Duh.[/i][/b][/QUOTE]Agreed, sort of. It would have been cool to go more into the post-war politics of it all, but OTOH it *does* make a large measure of sense that the Romulan government would return to the status quo after the Dominion was defeated, seeing as the Romulans only entered the alliance in the first place in order to protect themselves from a perceived threat. Once that threat was neutralized, they wouldn't have any *reason* to remain allies with the Feds. This was alluded to by the mention that Romulan ale was once again illegal, after having been legal during the tenuous (and ultimately short-lived) alliance. [QUOTE][b]*How and where did the Remans construct the Scimitar (in complete secrecy no less)? Presumably, their galactic position isn't the most ideal, what with them being (former?) Romulan slaves...[/b][/QUOTE]Shinzon simply said it was built "on secret base," which could conceivably be just about anywhere, but somewhere on Remus seems likely. [QUOTE][b]*If the Remans are such formidable shock troops, why was the Viceroy's boarding party so easily neutralized? [i]Duh.[/i][/b][/QUOTE]Well, the heroes *do* have to [i]win[/i], don't they? :p [QUOTE][b]*Why did Dina Meyer's character, who was in on Schinzon's scheme and nonchalantly assasinated the entire Romulan senate for him, later get cold feet? No fury like a woman scorned, huh?[/b][/QUOTE]She simply realized that Shinzon was a madman and decided that supporting him was not in the best interest of either herself or the Romulan military. Basically, she wasn't willing to go through with it because she knew it was a bad idea. So she switched sides. [b] [QUOTE]*On the assasination itself: I suppose the senators thought they were impervious to harm on the floor of the Senate, but I have to believe there would have been stricter security measures in place.[/b][/QUOTE]Well, when it's one of the senators *themselves* who is planting the device, there ain't much you can really *do* about it...know what I mean? :D [b] [QUOTE]If it's that easy to effect a change in the Romulan government, I'm amazed that it hasn't become routine.[/b][/QUOTE]Well, at least according to Shinzon in the film, it *is* fairly routine. He told Picard that regime changes are frequent on Romulus. [b] [QUOTE]*Echoes of Spock's death and eventual resurrection when Data uploads his memory to his new found twin before heading off to die. It's as if they've stuffed Spiner in a glass booth with a sign reading "Break Glass In Case Of Emergency". [i]Duh.[/i][/b][/QUOTE]Agreed. [i]Lame[/i]-O! Not to mention unoriginal. And unnecessary, given that this is rather firmly the last TNG movie... :rolleyes: [b] [QUOTE]*Why are the Romulans eager to go to war one day, then making historic peace overtures the next?[/b][/QUOTE]To quote the Klingons: "They have no honor!" Romulans have always been portrayed as fickle, sneaky, and simply concerned with their own interests. [b] [QUOTE]*Other unaddressed points: Worf's previous courtship with Troi (not to mention his ill-fated marriage to Dax), Janeway's promotion to admiral, Spock's underground unification movement.[/b][/QUOTE]Partly agreed. The Troi thing was resolved long ago, IIRC, and Janeway's promotion was expected given what we saw in "Endgame" (VGR)---but Worf's DS9 connections and Spock's campaign, yes. [b] [QUOTE]I expected Nemesis to wrap up loose ends, as it was billed as TNG's last installment, but it raised more questions than it answered. The film is, more than anything, a vehicle for Picard & Data to strout their stuff. Someone apparently decided they're the only characters worth developing... Nemesis is also basically a rehash: In Generations, Picard fights a madman to stop the activation of a deadly device which will cost countless lives. In Insurrection, Picard fights a madman to stop the activation of a deadly device which will cost countless lives. In Nemesis... I think there's a pattern emerging here. The trick is to avoid walking the beaten track, and to be more or less consistent with What Has Gone Before: Trek has a 40 year legacy to uphold, after all. Nemesis falls short on both counts. It suffers from a substandard, contrived plot that consists of a confusing and arbitrary sequence of highlights from previous movies, woven together by a storyline which bears no relation to the Star Trek universe As We Know It. For instance, Shinzon reveals that he wants to avenge his childhood slavery by wiping out the population of Earth. Why? Shouldn't his beef be with the Romulans? Furthermore, how did Shinzon take leadership of the Remans? How did he guide them to their independence? Shinzon was cast into the Reman mines to die, but somehow became a commander during the Dominion war... so how did he obtain that military commission? Bare essentials like these shouldn't have been left dangling. IMO, Nemesis was one Trek chasm after another, with lots of smaller canyons in between. The film hinged on the audience's belief in one basic premise: that Shinzon is a clone of Jean-Luc Picard. Unfortunately, Tom Hardy doesn't even remotely resemble him. He tries to mimic Stewart's stance and speech patterns, but fails, which only undermines his efforts as Evil Twin.[/b][/QUOTE]Largely agreed. I thought Hardy was dead-ringer for a young Picard, though. :( [QUOTE][qb]Even RAMBO works on some intellectual level... it's disappointing that a member of the Star Trek franchise does not. [/qb][/QUOTE]Well, [i]that[/i] may be going just a [i]bit[/i] too far, but I share your disappointment nonetheless. -[b]MMoM[/b] :D [/QB][/QUOTE]
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