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[QUOTE]Originally posted by bX: [QB] I think your nomenclature has me confused, G2K. I think that you are asserting that everything in the new movie is alternate, even the so-called Prime Timeline where the supernova is going to blow up the galaxy or whatever... My take, and I hope this isn't too rudimentary is that the Primeline is bounding along as we've been faithfully watching these many decades. When Spock and co. use the red matter to contain the supernova (after the regretful destruction of Romulus.) The resulting black hole causes a powerful temporal disturbance into which first Nemo and the Narada, then Spock Prime and the jellyfish ship disappear. The Primeline then continues with an abated supernova, but without Romulus, the Narada, Spock, and a sizeable quantity of red matter. Everyone is sad about Spock and Romulus and to a lesser extent the crew of the Narada... Meanwhile back in the past a new timeline is being created... The Narada emerges confused and furious from the temporal anomaly and beats the ever-living snot out of the horrendously ill-equipped Kelvin. George Kirk valiantly sacrifices himself, James T. Kirk gets born. Many years pass and in this time, Nero figures out he's traveled to the past, broods a bit, makes a plan, broods a bit more, beats up some Klingons, and then sits in wait for the jellyfish ship to emerge from the temporal thingy. In the meantime young Kirk has grown up way more bratty, Spock is, like, way more emotional and chicks with good ears dig him. Anyway Spock Prime finally emerges from the time thing, Nero pounces on him and captures the jellyfish, drops Spock off on Delta Vega, and proceeds to plant a black hole at Vulcan's core. There's some trifling with a bunch of still out-matched Federation ships, some brief amusement at insuring Quinto Spock is as miserable as Nero, and then the Narada sets off to blow up the Earth. Of course, with the wise counsel of Spock Prime, the Enterprise and her youthful crew are able to stop Nero before any red matter can be injected into Earth's core, and instead use all the red matter to create a black hole in the middle of the Narada just outside Sol system (as Jason points out in another thread, this may have some negative ramifications.) Anyway, the JJVerse (Neroverse? BH timeline? 2009 timeverse? Dawsonverse?) continues on with a youth-y crew, tons of lensflares, and they go off and have exciting adventures without a planet called Vulcan, a pretty deep hole under the Golden Gate, two Spocks (one with some pretty awesome knowledge of advanced tech, one with a totally smokin' comms officer) and Federation ships with gigungous nacelles. Some of those adventures may take them to a still intact Romulus. The Hobus Star supernova may still pose a threat to the galaxy. Future movies will tell... But the Primeline goes on too. I imagine a great big ceremony with Picard and B4 and Admiral Janeway and Captain (or whatever) Riker all crying/celebrating the survival of the galaxy somewhat saddened by the loss of Spock (again!). And because there are so few of them left after their planet got blowed up, no one really pays much attention to whether or not the Romulans (sporting glyphs of mourning) have bumpy foreheads or not. Is my take on things. I'm sorry I'm not grasping your BH / SN stardate thing. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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