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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Guardian 2000: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by bX: [qb] I think your nomenclature has me confused, G2K. I think that you are asserting that everything in the new movie is alternate, even the so-called Prime Timeline where the supernova is going to blow up the galaxy or whatever...[/qb][/QUOTE]I do not think that the Prime timeline (e.g. TOS, et cetera) or anyone from it appears in this film. One universe, one timeline is the basic way Trek's done it. Travel to the past and mess with stuff and you monkey about with the future. Hence no Enterprise over the Guardian of Forever's planet when McCoy went through, hence no Starfleet when Sisko and Jadzia were beamed through the chroniton particles when the microsingularity exploded, hence the Borgified Earth visible from the Enterprise-E's viewscreen, and so on. [QUOTE][qb]Anyway, the JJVerse (Neroverse? BH timeline? 2009 timeverse? Dawsonverse?) continues on with a youth-y crew, tons of lensflares[/qb][/QUOTE]More proof of an alternate universe . . . we mere 20th Century-born folk would be blinded by such incessant flashing! ;) [QUOTE][qb]But the Primeline goes on too.[/qb][/QUOTE]I just can't get there from here. If we accept this as part of the rest of the Trek lore, and if we accept the rationale of the Monsterprise characters as stated, then the Primeline has been nullified. [QUOTE][qb]I'm sorry I'm not grasping your BH / SN stardate thing. [/qb][/QUOTE]I'm sorry it wasn't more clear. BH = Black Hole timeline, the one starting with the 2233 event of a black hole pooping out the Narada. The main timeline of the new film. The main action of the new film occurs in BH 2258. SN = Supernova timeline. This is the one Nero and Spock came from, departing in SN 2387. It is what most people are assuming is the Prime (TOS, TNG, etc.) timeline. PT = Prime timeline. "The Cage" occurs in PT 2254. Nero = Nero of the Supernova timeline, since that's the only one we know, really. Supernova Spock = Spock from the Supernova (SN) timeline. Listed in the film credits as Spock Prime. Also a workable band name. NOBH = "Nero-Only Black Hole" timeline . . . i.e. what if Supernova Spock escaped or otherwise did not enter the SN 2387 black hole. Given that seconds pass between Nero's entry and Spock's, I have explored slightly the idea that history was altered after Nero went in but before Spock . . . i.e. the Supernova timeline should've been changed by Nero's arrival alone. But I think this is simply one of the film's many plot holes. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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