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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Guardian 2000: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by The Mighty Monkey of Mim: [qb] [EDIT: I had a much longer post typed up and it somehow got lost :mad: so I will leave just the statement below for now and try to retype my extended thoughts later.][/qb][/QUOTE]Don't feel bad. My browser puked and then ate my earlier post replying to Snay, which is why I have the two-second superquickie post ("/=") above. [qb] [QUOTE]I understand what G2k is saying, but as I said it is (a) not what the writers/producers/director intended, and more importantly, (b) not dramatically viable within the context of the film. [/qb][/QUOTE]I agree that Orci intended time travel to be a producing agent of parallel universes. I am not aware of anyone else having said that, but I'll roll with it for now. I just wish they'd said that [i]in the film[/i], instead of bollocks-ing a bunch of stuff up*. The film as presented just doesn't fit such an idea, so near as I can tell, and certainly doesn't fit if we try to fit the film in the context of Star Trek's continuity. A timeline that persists after a timeline change without outside influence (the pocket of the Borg time vortex in First Contact, or the Guardian in "City...") is no timeline at all, in the Trek rationale . . . that is a parallel universe. Proximity gives us no definite security . . . the Kerr Loop temporal event in "Yesterday's Enterprise" affected the Enterprise-D with the time changes, producing not an alternate universe but instead a revised timeline, which the Enterprise-C's return re-revised and corrected. Consider also the Trek history of black holes. The only times they've been [i]entered[/i] have been "Parallax"[VOY1] and "Scorpion, Pt. II"[VOY4]. "Scorpion", like this movie, featured a created one. In that case, the ship travelled to a different universe. (In "Parallax" nothing temporal or multi-universal happened at all.) Thus, to my mind, Romulus still exists in the Primeline, because Supernova Spock came from somewhere else altogether. (*But, then, I would also prefer a film with fewer plot holes or science abuses. Sometimes a little technobabble ain't a bad thing.) [/QB][/QUOTE]
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