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This is definetly the best episode of Enterprise I have seen! $$$$$$$
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Ryan McReynolds: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Bernd: [qb]2. Hideous Vulcans: These are simply not the Vulcans I know. Agreed, they (or better: some of them) may have their dark sides, but since the seventh DS9 season Star Trek is systematically destroying their reputation.[/qb][/QUOTE] Guess you never watched "Amok Time" or [i]Star Trek VI[/i], both of which featured Vulcans acting in exactly the same fashion... and both of which predate the seventh season of [i]Deep Space Nine[/i] by some time. T'Pring was manipulative and had no qualms about either Kirk or Spock being killed. T'Pau, held in great esteem by humans and Vulcans alike, was openly derisive of humans. "Art thee Vulcan, or art thee [i]human[/i]," she sneered, with dripping contempt. Then she conveniently forgot to mention that the fight was to the death, and refused to let the unfamiliar Kirk decline once it was revealed. And this was the [i]first[/i] appearance of any Vulcans other than Spock! Valeris was a liar and traitor who plotted to begin a war between two massive empires. I'm afraid you're suffering from a case of selective memory. You admitted that some Vulcans have dark sides, so frankly I'm confused by why this is any different. I submit that recent portrayals have been no more dark. All that the producers have done with [i]Enterprise[/i] is what they've done always done: showing the Vulcans to be capable of just as much individuality as anyone else. The more important issue is that if the Vulcans are [i]truly[/i] logical, there is no room for emotional concerns about offense or even honor. Self-defense is logical, and if that means keeping the potentially dangerous humans "contained" and breaking a treaty to avoid invasion from the Andorians, then there is no logical reason not to do these things. It may well be that these lessons are what turns the Vulcans into the generally acceptable people you remember from chronologically-later [i]Star Trek[/i]... even if "Amok Time," [i]Star Trek VI[/i], and "Take Me Out to the Holosuite" prove that there are still some pointy-eared assholes around. After all, "Breaking the Ice" shows that T'Pol is mellowing quite a bit. I bet her reaction is typical of Vulcans who spend time around humans, and with the warp five engine, a lot more interaction is bound to happen. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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