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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Jason Abbadon: [QB] Nim, "Cloverprise" is the term the modeling community has adopted for this turkey- I assume neither credit nor responsibility. We're hoping that the ship crashes will be rebuilt with something closer to the Refit's proportions, or hell, as long as they are useing a saucer the size of an Ambassador, why not use that general configuration? Whatever they do, those zeppelin nacelles have got to go. Alex Jaeger's POV aside, no, the ship really makes fuck off for sense- the external windows and docking ports are all for giants or at 1.8 decks tall- Bernd does a good breakdown of these issues at EAS. The ship was loosely based on Gaberial Korener's design, which I rather like, but then someone took that and started changing proportions untill it looks like a ship in a funhouse mirror...fucking hideous. That being said, I think every other federation design in the movie is fantastic. The less said about that supposed Romulan mining ship the better- the pinacle of clusterfuck, and I thought the Scimitar was as bad as things could get! As to ST:Insurrection, yeah, dont forget that the Sona command ship is flying backward for the whole movie- in spite of what should have been an obvious design simmularity between the command ship and battleship (pointy parts forward), the VFX boys made the CG model fly around ass-first... You certainly have apoint about the campy part and how we overlook that stuff in favor of the cool parts- with the "great" movies having a higher ratio of awesome>camp. Over at Starshipmodeler.net, we have been talking about the things in the Star Wars prequels that we LIKED, and it devolved into a total bashing of the awful camp that was RTOJ... It's all about perception, I suppose- of all the Trek movies I think First Contact is the only one cheese free...I can forgive the drunken councelor bit as required for understanding Cochrane's world...sorta. [QUOTE]Also Harry Mudd is now a blonde Bajoran woman, but let's not think about that.[/QUOTE]If ever there was a sentence to damn the JJverse, that was it. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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