Post A Reply
my profile
|
directory
login
|
search
|
faq
|
forum home
»
Flare Sci-Fi Forums
»
Star Trek
»
General Trek
»
$$$ Star Trek Into Darkness Speculation Discussion - Spoilers, natch
» Post A Reply
Post A Reply
Login Name:
Password:
Message:
HTML is enabled.
UBB Code™ is enabled.
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Omega: [QB] I could totally buy Praxis exploding early after the Narada incident. Heck, the Narada might have blown up Praxis for all we know. Either way, the blown up moon would explain why a heavily industrialized area of Qo'noS would be abandoned. I thought that might have been the most Star Trek-like Star Trek movie in a long time. People striving to be better, and win out over their darker impulses, while throwing an intensely modern allegory at us? Very satisfying. Very Star Trek. I'm glad they addressed the ramifications (and flaws) from the first film. Kirk losing the ship because he wasn't ready for it, and actually earning the chair, was a great choice of arc. He needed to face the no-win scenario, because he cheated the first time. Starfleet finding Khan and his crew for use as weapons is totally believable, as is the entire special-weapons development program in response to the Narada attack. The continued existence of trans-warp beaming is a nice note, glad that massive technical advance wasn't ignored. And I enjoyed most of the repeated notes from earlier movies, including Kirk's death, Scotty stopping the supership sent after Enterprise, defeating Khan "at great cost", Sulu in command, and Carol Marcus being involved in the development of advanced torpedoes. And the start of the five-year mission was a nice way to end it. There were some plotholes, though. "Oh, Khan beamed to the Klingon homeworld. Better chase him in a ship and fire torpedoes at him." Uh... why not just use transwarp beaming and follow him? Or even better, beam the torpedoes to his location? Some slight comment that only Section 31 had that, and he took out the tech when he destroyed their base, would have been nice. (And possibly eliminated trans-warp beaming as a concept from future movies. It's really too powerful.) Further, I was expecting more damage from those torpedoes. I mean, they were special uber-weapon torpedoes, right? And 72 detonating inside the Vengance still left the ship partly operational? And I'm confused as to exactly what he took OUT of the torpedoes to make room for cryotubes. Obviously not explosives. I guess if Kirk had actually tried to launch the torpedoes, they would have just... sat there. And when Khan blackmailed that guy in the beginning to blow up Section 31, what hold did he have over him at that point? I mean, the man's daughter was cured. Why would he still go through with being a suicide bomber? Oh, and McCoy's plan to save Kirk. "We have to have Khan's blood! Get be a cryo-tube, and take that other augment out of it! He totally doesn't have blood we can use!" (One place where three seconds of technobabble might actually have been appreciated.) I also thought the action was overdone in places. Kirk and Scotty trying to get to engineering went on too long. Avoiding the debris field went on too long. The action on Qo'noS (can they please SPELL IT RIGHT?) went on too long. Spock chasing down Khan was over-the-top. (Spock screaming "KHAAAAAN!" was over the top too, but I can almost forgive it. The writers are only human, and that would almost be impossible to resist.) And Carol Marcus in her underwear was just gratuitous. There were numerous occasions when I wanted the action to end so we could get on with the story. Overall, I enjoyed it. I'd've enjoyed it more with a tighter edit. [/QB][/QUOTE]
Instant Graemlins
Instant UBB Code™
What is UBB Code™?
Options
Disable Graemlins in this post.
*** Click here to review this topic. ***
© 1999-2024 Charles Capps
Powered by UBB.classic™ 6.7.3