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[QUOTE]Originally posted by CaptainMike: [QB] The problem is figuring out why anyone does anything in a society without want or need.. most of the people in the military who do the so-called 'shitty' jobs do so because a) they are working on a career to a position here they dont have to do jobs they dont like or b) to get hooked up for joining the military with cash and scholarships. But no one needs cash and nobody seems to have to pay for school in the future. Beyond the military, why does anyone become a garbageman? who cleans the toilets (oh wait.. thy clean themselves) I think the idea of Trek's society being 'without need' to be inaccuarate. basically, with replicator technology, it is inexpensive to clothe, feed and house the entire population of the Federation. THEORY: But beyond that, you would still have to work to earn money (or credit, since there is no 'money') to get the things you want. Theyll give you three square meals, a place to live and a few quasi-futuristic jumpsuits for free, but if you want to have three fancy meals, a place to live with a nice view, and a nice suit, you have to work up the credit. But could the government require you to work? or do anything? Many references are made to the fact that, without the constraint of needs or wants, humans are free to 'enrich themselves' to aspire to do whatever they please. So perhaps there are those that work because they want to have a nice hovercar or a room with a view of the Golden Gate Bridge (oh wait .. I forgot.. every fucking house in SF has a view of the Golden Gate, according to filmed Trek). This leaves the people who dont really have anything to offer free to explore existence in a relaxed manner. But then, some fo these folks wouyld use the oodles of free time to explore poetry, art, music, etc, thus creating the utopic Earth we've theorized. Of course, theres a mess of things to be considered there: an all encompassing media.. who decides, without money and sponsorship and sales, what 'good' art and other such creations are? Basically the same way as today, but less commercially.. bad artists will thrive because of overplay and good artists might lay in namelessness til they die. The only thing that is removed is the element of poverty. Would this free the arts or make it have no meaning? And would the people who really have nothing to do get bored and find a job, just to keep busy (applying themselves to something simply to avoid boredom) Would the lack of challenge make them weak and cause society to collapse? Perhaps thats why theyd leave Earth... fear of becoming meaningless... Bashir's father certainly seems to be an example of what could happen.. he hops from job to job, trying whatever he pleases just for the amusement of it, and to be able to pass himself off as someone important who DOES something What I have hesitated to mention is that, if no one chose to do anything, the government might be forced to require work from the population, or even worse, collapse, creating lots of evil repercussions. I'm thinknig that Federation system shouldnt be THAT much like socialism or communism, for fear of really scaring myself or starting a debate that will fill three or four areas of Flare with corpses Of course, in Roddenberry's TMP novelization he says that most of Starfleet are conservatives who want to preserve old traditions, because Earth is full of 'New Humans' who've turned the place into a big commune. Which he would have shown in the Phase II pilot, nudity in the park included. I love how Gene makes it all make sense somehow [/QB][/QUOTE]
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