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[QUOTE]Originally posted by HerbShrump: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by TSN: [qb] <blockquote>"How would Archer and company have any way of knowing that it was the Ferengi they encountered, anyway?"</blockquote> Because, when someone takes over your ship, but you end up capturing them, you'd be expected to interrogate them before letting them go (assuming you have to let them go). [/qb][/QUOTE]Additionally, if aliens take over your ship, you're going to at least get a really good description of them and they will be picked up by various secruity cameras and possibly sensor logs/readings. Later these records will be compared with other reports and a composite picture will be formed. Kinda like with any intelligence agency. Further, if you're coming across these aliens in the 22nd century, surely by the 24th century they'll be pretty well known. Especially aliens with the personality and reputation like the Ferengi. They weren't isolationists, after all. From Ex Astris Scientia: [QUOTE]So this episode is supposed to preserve continuity only because the word "Ferengi" is never uttered? It is ludicrous that the Ferengi should be identified as late as 213 years later when the Enterprise-D has the first official encounter with them. Even if their whole civilization had heeded Archer's threat for a full two centuries, this wouldn't have prevented Starfleet from finding out about them. It may have been a bit more acceptable, still very contrived, if the Ferengi of this episode had said, in a side note, that they were a long way from their home planet. On the other hand, only a few weeks ago in "Dear Doctor", they have already been explicitly mentioned to be in contact with the Valakians. Although it was probably supposed to be the same ship in both episodes, it would suggest that Ferengi are already notorious within the (rather narrow) range of Enterprise. Moreover, one of the Ferengi mentions a "Bolian female" to Krem in the end. So they already know the Bolians, but the Bolians won't report about them when they join the Federation? Finally, the fact that the Enterprise crew prevails and would be able to scan their databanks gives the death blow to all awkward attempts to excuse the continuity breach, because this should reveal everything important about them (at the very least what they are called). "Admiral, you need to warn all Starfleet ships of these, err, guys whose race name I neglected to find out."[/QUOTE]So, to summarize. There were too many contacts for the Ferengi to be that much a mystery by the 24th century. And as for the Cardassians... you're right. I haven't yet found any first contact info with them. They may have been known by Kirk's time. We can't really say wat was known then with only 3 seasons of material to draw from. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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