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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Timo: [QB] ....Except when there are no under-impulse emitters (those seemed to be in the original [i]Reliant[/i] model only, and disappeared somehow soon thereafter), and when the aft torpedo tubes are replaced by impulse engines. :) I don't really see a consistent dissing of [i]Excelsiors[/i] in the battle scenes; [b]NOBODY[/b] ever fires torpedoes in the big DS9 battles, and [i]Excelsiors[/i] and [i]Akiras[/i] perform more or less similarly in phaser battles. And the [i]Mirandas[/i] probably cannot help the fact that they have no shielding in the modern sense. The 24th century Trek space combat actually closely resembles pre-WWI naval fighting theories and practices. Pre-dreadnought ships had a great range of dissimilar guns aboard, so that there was no clear-cut "engagement range" - the ships could move back and forth to bring more or less of their guns to range. Primitive fire control was unable to make the biggest, longest-ranged guns truly useful in such fighting. All sorts of smallish, fast-moving "gunboats" could then partake in the action, Trek style, resulting in battles that began with gigantic parade formations and ended in uncontrollable melees. (Also, torpedoes were the shortest-ranged weapons in that battlefield, like they seem to be in Trek!) When fighting pre-WWI style, the side that fails to bring every last of its vessels to the fight is the underdog. Quality of guns, boilers or armor is largely irrelevant and cannot be made use of - only quantity of guns counts. This is very much how things in DS9 seem to play out, too. Timo Saloniemi [/QB][/QUOTE]
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