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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Aban Rune: [QB] Well, a Kirk-era fleet with Akiras, Defiants, Steamrunners, Sabers, etc. In fact, what other TMP era ships are seen in the fleet other than the Excelsior and the Miranda classes? If we're going by what we see on screen, we can argue that, by the time of the Dominion war, the only TMP era designs still in service are those two. IIRC, no Oberths were seen in those fleet movements, nor were any of the Kitbashes. Money as such may not exist in the Federation, but it sure exists amongst other races, many of which the Federation likely does business with. The Federation still has to deal with resource limits, energy production, etc. Noone said that Warbird may apply to shuttles or scouts. It was simply pointed out that there *are* those kinds of ships in the Ronulan fleet and that Warbird is likely a description that applies to several classes of ships, just as the term Battlecruiser or Escort applies to several classes of Federation vessel. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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