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Jason Abbadon
Member # 882
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Drool....
It's all stuff from the tweaking that TMP recieved for DVD. The K'Tinga is still painted and greebled in it's STVI configuration!
Un-FUCKING BELIEVABLE! I own Night of the Creeps and never caught that it's the same model as the Promellian battleship!
The rest of the coolness.
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Mikey T
Member # 144
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Hmm so the D-7 TMP version has an aft shuttlebay...nice.
Is it me or that Navigator study model looking a bit like the Delta Flyer...
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Nim
Member # 205
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Wait, so in the original shots of TMP the D7 has an aft torpedo launcher, and in the new-model shots it hasn't? Even though it fires at V'Ger's probe from it? Kind of inattentive model builders.
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Jason Abbadon
Member # 882
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Both versions have both a shuttlebay and an aft torp launcher- the mods had nothing to do with that area. Most of the mods concentrated on the nacelles, boom and bridge areas. Lots of photo-etched brass was added (including that strange "sombreo" added to the bridge tower for some reason).
..and, obviously, it got re-painted.
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MinutiaeMan
Member # 444
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It looked to me like the aft torpedo launcher of the K't'inga got covered up, as well. But that doesn't mean they didn't change it back for the TMP shots. (Besides, didn't they just do some supplemental work to enhance the effects, rather than re-doing every single effects shot of the movie?)
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AndrewR
Member # 44
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Here is that interesting Klingon insignia again: Here
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Nim
Member # 205
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MM: quote: But that doesn't mean they didn't change it back for the TMP shots.
Oh.
Bruce: quote: that interesting Klingon insignia
Maybe it's like their "Jolly Rogers", just a squadron.
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Shik
Member # 343
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Or an emblem of the Chancellor, like the presidential seal. (No pinniped jokes, dammit!)
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Johnny
Member # 878
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Interesting, part of the back of the K'T'inga ended up being the top of the Maquis fighter.
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The Mighty Monkey of Mim
Member # 646
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Uh...just to clear up the confusion, there was NO new motion control work done for the TMP DE. Everything done was CGI, and I don't think they ended up doing anything new with the Klingon ships, only with the Enterprise and V'Ger. The old models were onhand for research purposes.
-MMoM
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Jason Abbadon
Member # 882
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quote: Originally posted by Shik: Or an emblem of the Chancellor, like the presidential seal. (No pinniped jokes, dammit!)
All the K'Tingas have that- even the DS9 ones.
Hmmm..I may add it the battleship I'm building now- just to be ornery.
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The Mighty Monkey of Mim
Member # 646
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The emblem was added to the model during its "refurbishment" for TUC. Since the model was never repained again after that, it bears the Kronos One markings in all of its subsequent appearances. I do not think the CGI version has it, though. Neither does Greg Jein's smaller "replica" model used in "Flashback" (VGR).
-MMoM
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Jason Abbadon
Member # 882
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It's on the TMP version- It has to be: the old ERTL model from the early 1980's has those on it's decal sheet.
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The Mighty Monkey of Mim
Member # 646
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I don't think so. Check out the screencaps here and studio model pics here and here. Are you sure they were the same markings? I wonder if it's possible that the people who repainted the model for TUC were inspired by the kit decals.
-MMoM
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Jason Abbadon
Member # 882
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Hmmmm- that's gonna bug me now. I have to track down the instructions to make sure...
While all the pics are of the TUC version, this is an incredible resource for pics.
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Mars Needs Women
Member # 1505
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Wow, this guy has lot of cool shit! Did see his model of the tripod from "War of the Worlds"? It's looks cooler that I what I remember from the movie.
Is he God?
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Jason Abbadon
Member # 882
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No, but that model is not a prop- it's an incredible resin model that costs about $300 and was mastered by the same guy that worked on the movie's model (it's not all done via CGI).
Worthwhile- it's 24" tall!
I'm very tempted to buy one and converty it to match the book's description (mainly by adding a seperate "heat ray" box-like device and the tubelike Black Smoke chemical weapon that was, sadly ignored by the Speilberg movie).
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Timo
Member # 245
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It should be noted that the aft torpedo tube of the TMP K't'inga is also its aft motion control rod mounting hole.
So even though the model has this parabolic dish thingy covering the aft hole in those photographs, the dish appears to only be cosmetic fluff for hiding the banality of the "insert rod here" feature when the model goes on display. The dish did not appear in the actual movie (neither in the original version or the DE).
Jein's later, smaller model has a different covering over the aft motion control hole - a complex inverted-Y greeblie bit that may or may not feature an aft torpedo tube of smaller caliber. This is what is seen in the CGI ships and the Qo'noS 1, too.
Timo Saloniemi
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Mars Needs Women
Member # 1505
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quote: Originally posted by Jason Abbadon: No, but that model is not a prop- it's an incredible resin model that costs about $300 and was mastered by the same guy that worked on the movie's model (it's not all done via CGI).
Worthwhile- it's 24" tall!
I'm very tempted to buy one and converty it to match the book's description (mainly by adding a seperate "heat ray" box-like device and the tubelike Black Smoke chemical weapon that was, sadly ignored by the Speilberg movie).
Hmm...that sure would be interesting. Also it should be mentioned that in the novel, it was said that the tripod had no joints but rather moved its legs and arms by a series of metal plates that slid across each other. Don't know what that would look like though.
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Jason Abbadon
Member # 882
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The most faithful models and illustrations make the legs out to be kinda an internal structure with armor covering -like an old suit of armor. The overall shape of the body is correct- kind of a "mailkmaid's stool" mushroom shape with the legs under it like a stool's legs (probably Well's inspiration).
I liked the legs on this latest WOTW tripod- except for when they raise up: the "toes" just dangle akwardly and slap back down as the leg lowers.
The CGi version from the (mostly awful) Pendragon movie is an intresting depiction- plus they included the Martian Flying Machine!
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