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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Dukhat: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by o2: [qb] I can live with Miranda's and Excelsior's, but I also like to see the FC ships in more detail. They have been only showed brief and/or from the distance, but I really would like to see one of them as 'Hero' ship in one episode. Ok, I know that will not happen... [/qb][/QUOTE]Ok, here's why I hate Excelsiors and Mirandas so much (and to a lesser extent, the FC ships). At the time, the DS9 producers needed massive fleet shots for the Dominion war, and the only way they could do this was with CGI. SO in order to get ships, ILM had to hand over their FC ships for remapping. While something happened to the Norway mesh and it was never used again, the Akira, Saber, Steamrunner and Miranda classes were remapped. The rest of the fleet was represented by ships whose physical models survived long enough to get scanned into CGI, which were the Defiant, Enterprise-D, and Greg Jein's Excelsior. The Nebula class Bonchune CGI model created for VOY was used later, but only for one scene. I completely understand their limitations, budget, and time constraints, at the time. What I don't quite understand is why the bulk of the fleet consisted entirely of Mirandas and Excelsiors, with Akiras, Steamrunners and Sabers backing them up. I'm presuming that the ships comprising the Cardassian and Dominion fleets were state-of-the-art battleships. So all Starfleet can throw at them are 75+ year old clunkers? There were like four Galaxys, one Nebula, and usually one Defiant. The rest were TMP-era ships. IMHO, this makes Starfleet look desperate. Now I understand that the three FC ships are obviously newer, and they comprise most of the other half of the fleets. My bias with them is that I just don't like their designs, at least for the time period they're supposedly from based on their registries. And the DS9 producers were essentially forced to use them because they didn't have any other CGI-only ship models. SO my point with this rant is that if these fleet scenes need to be redone, why would they need to use the same ship designs, and why would they have to mimic the original scenes? I would prefer to at least see a lot fewer Mirandas and Excelsiors, or even better, none at all. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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