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[QUOTE]Originally posted by MinutiaeMan: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Felix the Kzin: [QUOTE]Originally posted by MinutiaeMan: My problem is that some others were trying to present the FJ version of the Constitution as another variant of the class. I really don't think that's the case at all.[/QUOTE]Well, for the record, I do. Think about it: If there were three different variants in TOS, (which you just stated that you accepted) why couldn't there have been an/other/s before? Why couldn't the original U.S.S. Constitution have looked exactly as depicted in Joseph's drawings? After all, those drawings are the only glimpse we've had of the NCC-1700. Why do you inist that such a variant does not exist? There is no evidence to support that, and in fact there [i]is[/i] evidence (the aforementioned computer displays) pointing to the contrary.[/QUOTE]First off, once you get past two or three variations of the same class, it starts to get rather ludicrous. Certainly different ships can end up with different specifications, but that doesn't mean that there's still not some consistency. And, if we were to accept your argument that the computer graphics represent literal canon, that means that there have been a disproportionate number of Admirals and Captains named Gene Roddenberry, Rick Berman, and so on. It means that there was a starship named USS Alka-selzior. It means that a military ship has quotes from Gilligan's Island on panel labels. It means that there is a sports car, Nomad,a duck, and other odd items as part of the crucial equipment outfit of the Enterprise-D. You don't have to take things so literally! ;) [QUOTE]You must admit that---despite the fact that SotSF, et al, made up out of thin air several Connie variants that most likely don't exist in the "actual" Trek universe---their basic ideas of a progressive series of alterations to the Constitution design [i]do[/i] fit rather nicely with what we've seen on the shows.[/QUOTE]I must? Oh, okay. I guess I must agree, then... You seem to be talking about two different things here. First is the variations of configurations for the Constitution Class. The second is your proposal that the FJ design become another variant. I have no problem with having a couple of variations on the Constitution Class, as I said above. However, I do not agree that FJ's designs represent yet another configuration. I believe that the discrepancies are simply explained by artist's errors. Shall we agree to disagree? :) [i]The following is a somewhat snarky commentary based on the above arguments. I mean no offense by the sarcastic tone.[/i] Here, I've got a few examples based on your line of reasoning, Felix/Mim... -- Miranda Class. It's fairly well-known that there are some inaccuracies in the Encyclopedia's depiction of the Miranda. Specifically, the roll bar is far too small, and the support pylons for that bar are also a bit off. Shall we say that there's some variant of the Miranda Class based on the differences between the Encyclopedia illustration and the studio model? -- How about the DS9:TM? We know that the Centaur had a different design from the "Excelsior Variant" diagram that was shown in that book. That must mean that there's another class of "Excelsior variant" out there that matches the DS9:TM diagram perfectly! Or at the very least, a "Centaur Class, ____ variant" that matches the DS9:TM image. -- How about the Academy Trainer image in the Encyclopedia? We know that Wesley's ship looked different, but maybe we should argue that some cadets take their pilot's training lessons on Peregrine-class couriers... Get my point? :) All of these examples are just as authoritative as the TOS:TM, if not a whole lot more so. And yet we still obviously have to make allowances for errors... [/QB][/QUOTE]
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