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CC is faced with the issue that young adults face-you want to everything and you will do everything that is necessary to have these things. In the end, you become a slave to debt. My advice-hold off on the UP3, reduce the money load by offering a pared down site, and setting rules that limit use or something else so that the site is kept functional. However, being as young as CC is, he will probably go ahead with UP3, become mired in debt, and the forums will fold. I predict the forums will collapse in a few months. This will be one of his first life lessons in regards to debt. And my hope is that CC will learn and grow from this experience.
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Charles Capps
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Gee, thanks for your vote of confidence.
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I think you're a bit overly pessimistic, Trinculo. SolarFlare is CC's baby, yes. But U3 and these Forums are not exclusively his responsibility. That's why there are other moderators and admins. Even in his absence, we're still around to take care of the place. We are the hydra.
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The First One
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So. . . rather than just click arbitrarily on a banner and wander around a bit, you'd sooner see the whole thing fold? Fine. If you can't spare the time from your packed work schedule and social life, we understand completely. But it's not like CC's asking a lot. . .
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CC has chosen to place himself in debt by upgrading the site and planning on adding a large site [UP3] to his bill. I do not help others if they put themselves in a situation where they are sinking in debt. This is accomadation. I have given my advice. It has been ignored. Now I wait to see what happens to the site.
BTW, though I have expressed support for the UP3 as a community member, I believe the site is a further redundancy on the Web about starships and starship construction. There are enough lists and schematics for a person to walk on from California to the East Coast. If the site doesn't expand beyond the lists and the schematics found on so many other sites and the forums fold, I will withdraw my support.
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Trinculo - you've made your position quite clear. If you don't support an initiative, just say nothing at all. The reality is that Charles is in this situation, he's not asking us to send him cheques, just to brainlessly click a few links, no big deal huh? Anyway you get the idea. Now in the interests of forum harmony I'm going to ask you to tone it down. I don't want to have to ask again.
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I accept and understand message. And I support the UP3 in the spirit of "forum harmony". CC threatened the members by saying if he or she didn't visit the banners, the site will fold. I don't accept or tolerate being threatened. I believe the time to threaten an individual comes when both parties were actively engaged in an activity since the beginning. CC made the decision to change the forums, upgrade the forums, and introduce UP3 without the full support of the group-there were dissenters. I didn't participate with CC on the referenced three items. And I certainly wasn't going to stand still and be threatened. I responded. I make no amends or apologies.
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The First One
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In other words, it's Trinculo's ball, and he's going home.
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If you don't like the way I operate, then LEAVE. Simple as that.
The LAST thing I need right now is someone saying "Oh, look, he's being a fool and is going to fail, and I'll get to rub it in!" Do you know what that makes YOU look like? I have enough doubts about my abilitiy to run this thing without someone pointing it out to the whole damned world. Thanks for bringing my doubts and worries to the front. Does a world of good for me right now. If I wasn't holding back, I'd tell you what I feel about your opinions, but I think you can gather that much from this message.
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CC, you open yourself to this form of criticism with your thread about people not gettng the message. If you have doubts or fears, don't discuss them openly. I don't gloat about the situation for I feel that many people visit the forum to be part of a web community which I fear may be threaten by decisions that you made in the last month. These were and are not critical: UP3 and the changing of the format. If you ask me to leave, I will do so without protest.
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Charles Capps
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Trinoculo has emailed me asking for his profile to be deleted. I have disabled it. This was not the place to say what was said. If any of you have doubts, please do express them, but do it in private, damnit!
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