To quote Ferris Bueller "Isms in my opinion are not good. A person should not believe in an ism - he should believe in himself. I quote John Lennon: "I don't believe in Beatles - I just believe in me". A good point there. Of course, he was the Walrus. I could be the Walrus - I'd still have to bum rides off of people."
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Perhaps untrustworthy is too strong an interpretation. But I certainly haven't seen much in the way of friendly give and take around here in awhile.
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Well, DT has come back to the boards...that has set everybody on edge I imagine.
------------------ Ohh, so Mother Nature needs a favor? Well maybe she should have thought of that when she was besetting us with droughts, and plagues and poison monkeys. Nature started the fight for survival and now she wants to quit because she's losing...well I say "Hard Cheese"! ~C. Montgomery Burns
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Sol: You're saying that a two-page thread on the merits of communism w/o any flaming isn't proof enough? What more do you want?
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He wants a framed document from DT proclaiming he will not flame, a hundred dollars (small bills, please!) and a trip to Disneyland!
------------------ "The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts." --Bertrand Russell (1872-1970) Come Hither and Yawn...
------------------ Ohh, so Mother Nature needs a favor? Well maybe she should have thought of that when she was besetting us with droughts, and plagues and poison monkeys. Nature started the fight for survival and now she wants to quit because she's losing...well I say "Hard Cheese"! ~C. Montgomery Burns
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Well, keep in mind, Simon is a raving, right-wing reactionary. His hatred of communism is boundless. For any harmful myths about socialism to be dispelled would harm his right-wing agenda. As such, this is threatening to him.
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Nah, not Mr. T. He's about as harmless as a kitten, though with a slightly raspy meow. Now, if he had said something insulting, like neopolitan is better than raspberry sorbet, then I would have had to take action.
And I would take any and all of the gifts Baloo mentioned.
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------------------ "The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts." --Bertrand Russell (1872-1970) Come Hither and Yawn...
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Okay, there isn't a decent book on the subject in a two-county radius, so I'm just going to have to ask...
Does Socialism have its basis more in social dynamics, or in economics?
I suspect it is social dynamics, but if it were economics, it might be necessary to rethink some factors of it, given that we've learned a bit more about economics since the mid 19th Century...
It seems as though the boom-bust cycle predicted has lessened or ceased, (thanks largely to lessons learned during the Great Depression) rather than continuing and getting more severe, as it was supposed to.. at least in countries with more responsible economic policies. (Hell, _I_ made $7000 on the stock market last year)
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The vastly different nature of today's economy is one of the reasons that socialism is not a very popular theory these days, for the reasons you mentioned. DT will, of course, disagree, arguing that the economy has not changed, and that the concerns of socialism remain the concerns of the world at large. And he is free to do so, as it is all just interpreting data.
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All I can add to that is when your facts disagree with your figures, one of 'em's wrong. (And maybe both!)
--Baloo
------------------ "The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts." --Bertrand Russell (1872-1970) Come Hither and Yawn...
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