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I was thinking about making a new (non-Star Trek) webpage with frames. But these days almost every page no longer has frames. Is it becoming obsolete? What do you prefer?
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It depends on whether you need frames. Most of the sites I've done don't use them, but SFSD does, because I have that long list of ships and the individual pages don't need a lot of screen space.
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I don't even know how to use frames. Let alone the need for them when a table will do.
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If you want a simple look, go frameless. If you want to have some complexity, use frames, but make them easy to use. I like simple, so I have a frameless site.
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Tables are in because most corporate sites use PHP or ASP or CGI to produce webpages and they are not able to generate frames
My rules to "frame or not to frame"
I frame if
High graphics "media" if it has flash and shit i frame High traffic if i want you to go somewhere else but yet stay in my site, frame
If you're to lazy to make complex tables (god damn dumb ass attributes) frame
There is a new trend now for simple webpages to multiple repeating HTML codes (ie side/top navigation bar) throught your site using Java. Want to learn it come to my class at the University of .........
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Despite the easy navigation, there are several reasons against frames - why almost none of the big search engines or company pages uses them:
- It is harder to design frames to support all screen resolutions than it is w/o them. Parts of the index frame may not be visible. You might suppress the ugly horizontal scroll bar or just accept that buttons are only partially visible in some cases.
- Administration is complicated if there is more than just a standard frame for the whole site which is always there.
- If the frame sets change, "frames in frames" may appear under certain circumstances.
- Netscape crashes more often in frames than in single pages.
- Some users (like me) like to open pages in new windows which appear w/o the frame.
- The content frame is found in a search engine, and displayed w/o the index frame, so that no navigation is possible.
- Sometimes full size screens are just better for the visualization.
BTW, IMHO Java navigation is a horrible thing, since it considerably slows down ("starting Java...") the rendering of each single page even on fast computers. Simple navigation should be done only with HTML or, if necessary to implement a "mouse-over" effect, with JavaScript.
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Well, my page has a background in the "main" frame that can only be seen at 1280*1024... However, that resolution isn't all that popular, so it doesn't really matter. It's just a mirror of the background on the menu. I put it there so I can see it...
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