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MIB, this is your field. I was just wondering what everybody's favorite James Bond films are. Here are mine, from best to worst:
1(tie):Goldeneye =Goldfinger 3: Diamonds are Forever 4: Licence to Kill 5: World is Not Enough 6: Living Daylights 7: Spy Who Loved Me 8: Dr. No 9: Thunderball 10: From Russia With Love 11: Tomorrow Never Dies 12: A View to a Kill 13: Moonraker 14: The Man With the Golden Gun
I haven't seen You Only Live Twice, OHMSS, Live and Let Die, For Your Eyes Only, or Octopussy. (Never Say Never Again isn't official, and I haven't seen it anyway, so...)
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Yeah, you're f**king right that this is my field. lol.
I don't have 1 favorite Bond movie. I have 6. 1 from the Bond series starring Conery, 1 from the series starring Dalton, A 2 way tie for the Moore series and another 2 way tie for the Brosman seies. The guy who played Bond in On Her Majesties Secret Service doesn't count because that was the only movie he was in, plus it sucked.
My favorite Sean Conery Bond movie is You Only Live Twice.
Moonraker and A View To A Kill has tied for my favorite Bond movie starring Roger Moore.
The Living Daylights is my favorite Bond movie starring Tim Dalton.
Goldeneye and The World is Not Enough has tied for my favorite Brosman Bond movie. I have no clue as to wether or not I spelled Brosman correctly.
FYI. Even though Connery was the original Bond, Roger Moore starred in the highest number of Bond films.
Another FYI. I've seen every single Bond movie ever made so far.
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Geez. We're both Bond fans, we're both trekkies, and we're both from good ol' Wisconsin. I suppose that you're gonna tell me that you're just as f**ked up as I am right?!?!
Back the original topic: The one with Woody Allen was a parody. It was about an agent named Jimmy Bond or something like that. Either way, niether movies are considered official Bond.
BADGERS!!!! WOO!!! *sniff* I miss going to Cub Foods.....
"Licence to Kill" is just different enough to make it a potential contender for me. Plus, any top-five Bond list seems remiss without a Moore movie, so I guess "For Your Eyes Only" could also knock "TWINE" out of the fifth spot.
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Personally, although Lezenby isn't a favourite of mine, he wasn't bad. And On Her Majesty's Secret Service is a really good Bond film. Certainly the closest to the source material by a long way ("The Spy Who Loved Me", for instance, had almost nothing to do with the Flemming story of the same name).
I'm not to okeen on Goldeneye. While it is good, well written, and has lots of nice little touches, it always felt to me to be lacking something. It might be the score, which is fairly bad, especially compared to David Arnold's later rejuvination of the music.
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quote:Originally posted by MIB: The guy who played Bond in On Her Majesties Secret Service doesn't count because that was the only movie he was in, plus it sucked.
Of the "official" Bond movies, George Lazenby's performance as 007 is certainly the weakest. However, it is not that bad. Though he was missing the sexist sauveness and coolness Connery is the epitomy of, Lazenby certainly came across as relatively "tough" (he did all his own stunts). You may be aware that Lazenby had no acting experience, and was overshadowed in this movie by bigger and, frankly, better stars. Perhaps he would have grown into the role, as Connery did, whom I do not think had quite figured out the role in "Dr. No."
As for the movie itself, in many ways it is the "best." It "looks" like the best Bond movie; its cinemotography, in my opinion, was the best until the last few (which benefit from modern equipment). So, in terms of general motion-picture quality, it's is probably the highest. Now, it is not THE best "Bond movie," but is does contain numerous thrilling wintertime chases, makes Bond rely on his wits and guts (rather than gadgets), has "Hitchcockian" scenes (such as when Bond breaks into that office), . . .
MAJOR SPOILERS
Bond falls in love and marries (about the only character development until the later movies), and it has an unhappy ending.
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Thus, combining its good "Bondian" aspects, its character development and resulting plot risk, and its general high quality as a motion picture, I found it a personal top-five contender.
FYI: though Roger Moore starred in the most Bond movies, Pierce Brosnan is the highest grossing Bond. If you adjust for inflation, Sean Connery is the highest grossing Bond.
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I never liked Roger Moore much, especially when he started getting fat and wearing that safari suit to cover his pauch. A lot of his movies were too cartoony with that Jaws character. But I do like The Spy Who Loved Me (since it has Shane Rimmer in it). Connery has never been surpassed for humor, coolness, and ruthlessness. He also has a great accent. His movies had the best villains (Goldfinger, Dr. No, Donald Pleasance as Blofeld, Red Grant, Rosa Klebb) and a lot of great Bond Girls (Ursula Andress, Honor Blackman). They also had the Cold War, SPECTRE, and SMERSH. Timothy Dalton was physically pretty good but got let down by bland villains and bland Bond Girls and generally flabby movies. I think Pierce Brosnan is a bit feeble. He doesn't seem dangerous enough. He's much better playing the fake spy in Tailor of Panama. George Lazenby was rather stiff, but he did have the best Bond Girl (Diana Rigg).
My favorite movie by far is Goldfinger. It's got so much great stuff: Goldfinger cheating at cards, Jill Masters getting covered with gold, the golf game, judo with Pussy Galore, the insane plot to blow up Fort Knox, Bond strapped to the laser table ("I expect you to die"), fake nerve-gassing of thousands of soldiers, the fight with Oddjob in Fort Knox, and Bond trying to stop the bomb.
My next favorites are Thunderball, You Only Live Twice, Dr. No, and From Russia with Love.
Here's a bit about Casino Royale from imdb: Casino Royale was Ian Fleming's first James Bond novel. It was the only one not sold to Eon Productions. As a result, CBS TV first adapted it for an episode of Climax! in 1954, starring Barry Nelson as CIA agent Jimmy Bond. When plans began to adapt the novel as a motion picture, the original thought was to do a straight film of the novel. But with the success of Sean Connery's Bond, it was decided the only way a rival Bond film could survive would be as a parody. The Peter Sellers sequence is the only part of Ian Fleming's novel to make it into the film. The confrontation with Le Chiffre in the casino, the plan to discredit Le Chiffre with SMERSH and the villain's execution by enemy agents are all in the novel. So is the notion of Bond writing a book on baccarat, and the element of Vesper being an enemy spy. Reportedly, Eon Productions has been trying to buy back the rights to Casino Royale for years, in hopes of someday making a serious Bond film out of the novel.
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[quote]I never liked Roger Moore much, especially when he started getting fat and wearing that safari suit to cover his pauch. A lot of his movies were too cartoony with that Jaws character. [quote]
I have to disagree. Yes, the Jaws charactor was a bit.....uhhhh....wierd, but he only showed up in 2 movies. Overall, I liked Roger Moore. On the other hand, I really don't dislike any of the Bond actors.
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Hmmm. The Goldeneye soundtrack was fairly good. Especially that one bit when they're running through the Archives...
(Oh, $$$poilers for Bond fans)
If anyone's read the newest Bond book, Never Dream of Dying, the father of Bond's wife turns out to be a bad guy and meets the same end as Bond's wife: he is shot up, this time by Bond. He wanted vengeance (sp?) because Bond accidentaly killed his wife and daughter at the beginning. Oh, and MIB, you should come and see Miller Park sometime during baseball season. It's great! As the roof closes, they play the Blue Danube... And how 'bout them Packers? I got Antonio Freeman's autograph recently. Someone even took his waterbottle he left behind!
quote:Originally posted by PsyLiam: Personally, although Lezenby isn't a favourite of mine, he wasn't bad. And On Her Majesty's Secret Service is a really good Bond film. Certainly the closest to the source material by a long way ("The Spy Who Loved Me", for instance, had almost nothing to do with the Flemming story of the same name).
I agree; see my long-winded post above.
quote:I'm not to okeen on Goldeneye. While it is good, well written, and has lots of nice little touches, it always felt to me to be lacking something. It might be the score, which is fairly bad, especially compared to David Arnold's later rejuvination of the music.
Perhaps it is lacking because "Goldeneye" is lacking a "grand scheme." 006's plot is, as Bond puts it, "petty theft." Plus, if his motivation is revenge, why steal at all? However, I think the "well written . . . lots of nice touches" aspects are enough to put it in my top five.
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