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Shik
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As in "Nooooo...it's not STUUUpid...it's adVAAAAANNNced..!"?

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"mom!!!! dexter's playing with my doll's again!!!!"
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Shik
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Wrong show.

"GIR!! Reporting for DUTY, sir!!"
"'GIR??'...What does the 'G' stand for?"
"Iiiii don't KNOOOOWWW.....
WWWWWWWWWWHHHHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWheeheeheeheeHEEEHEEEHEEEHEEE!!!!"

[ June 18, 2002, 20:37: Message edited by: Shik ]

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well, same show, different episode.
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Shik
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No, wrong show.

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nevermind then, but i distinctly remember dexter saying "Nooooo...it's not STUUUpid...it's adVAAAAANNNced..!", and the "UUUUU" is a pretty good text equivalent of dexter's pronunciation of words incorporating a long "u" sound.
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Shik
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:::sighs::: Kevin McDonald, as the Purple Tallest, on "Invader Zim."

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ah, thank you for clarifying. i only know kevin mcdonald's stuff from "kid's in the hall", so i didn't recognize the reference.
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Keeping in mind that I study microprocessor architecture, provide some legitimate technical reasons showing why you feel that the G4 is "behind the times." [Razz]
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quote:
Keeping in mind that I study microprocessor architecture, provide some legitimate technical reasons showing why you feel that the G4 is "behind the times"
well, the biggest problem with the G4e is the short floating point pipeline. in itself, this is a good thing. being able to crunch more numbers per given clock cycle is great, when you are comparing 2 different processors clock cycle to clock cycle. however, the G4e is also hurt by this. the shorter pipeline disallows the G4e from easily scaling in clock speed. the Athlon, and to a much greater degree the Pentium IV, have long pipelines and thus can scale higher in clockspeed. through this, the longer pipelined processors scale to higher clockspeeds and can make up for the lack of instructions per clock cycle. In the case of the Pentium IV, its much greater clockspeed allows it to outpace a G4e that is running at half the clockspeed in pure throughput (assuming that the pipelines are kept full during the comparison)despite the fact that the pipelines in the G4e are much shorter than those in the Pentium IV (i believe the G4e's FP pipelines are 6 stage and the Pentium IV is 20) and the instructions per clock being very heavy in the G4e's favor.

The current Pentium IV and Athlon XP have very strong data prefetch logic built in which can give a boost of up to 30% in certain cicumstances, generally when the data being fetched is no longer within the L1 or L2 cache of the processor. The branch predictors of the Pentium IV are much better than those on the G4e, but doesn't matter too much as it is it just prevents the Pentium IV from taking a 19 cycle hit, which the G4 doesn't have to worry about. The cache of the Pentium IV is also considerably more advanced than that of the G4e, and the current northwood Pentium IV has more than the G4e does.

The G4e is much less advanced than the Pentium IV and Athlon when it comes to the FSB. The FSB of the G4e is a single pumped 133 mHz FSB. The Athlon has a double pumpled 133 (equivalent of 266mHz single pumped under ideal situations) and the Pentium IV has a quad pumped 133 (which equals 533 under ideal situations). bottom line is that the Athlon and the Pentium IV can retrieve information much more quickly than the G4e due to the fact that the buses are faster. the memory of the Athlon and Pentium IV are alos much superior, but that has more to do with the platform than it does with the processor. however, i doubt that the G4e could take advantage of DDR RAM of Rambus any more than the Pentium III could, since they both have similar FSB schemes and speeds.

just to look at the platforms themselves, the chipsets Apple uses do not have the same advantaged od V-link (on Via chipsets) or hyper transport (on AMD and nVidia chipsets), so information does not travel between the northbridge and the other components as they do on the Athlon of Via chipset equipped Pentium IV's. i forget what intel uses, but they have similar tech. also, components for the Apple platform are highly lacking. the Geforce4 just came out for the Apple platform (well, it was announced, who knows when it will be available) and it is a generation old on the PC. RAM tech sucks for the apples as well. the Apple platform in general is based on tech than Intel and AMD has moved away from (single pumped FSB's, sdr ram, long floating point pipelines, etc). basically, the G4e highly resembles the older Pentium III in several ways, and the G4e is actually outperformed heavily by the Pentium III at similar clockspeeds in Specf tests, despite the newness of the G4e and Apples claims of a superior floating point unit. SpecIn scores were similar between a 1 gHz Pentium III and a 1 gHz G4e, with the G4e being slightly faster at integer tests. The pentium IV at 2.53 gHz considerably outperforms the fastest G4e, as does the 1.8 gHz AthlonXP, in both Specin and Specf and real world tests.

is that good enough?

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bX
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My. You do have a small penis. Well, perhaps someone will think it's cute someday.

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much the same way your stunted mangina and low IQ will someday be found cute.
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ohhhhh my gosh

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bX
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It's important to you, Rex, isn't it? Feeling superior. Aserting that your platform is superior. That, even for your platform of choice, your machine is bigger and faster and better than nearly everyone elses. You take pleasure in the fact that, nevermind anything else, at least in this one thing, you can be assured that your CPU is towering over all of us. Blazing along at 2.4GHz with its advanced memory architecture, and 'long'er FP 'pipeline', you are an enormous monument of potency and strength and your remarkable virility shames us all.

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Sol System
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Honestly people, diversify, spread your emotions around rather than concentrating them into bitter letters and words of hate.
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