It would have been nice if this thread hadn't become flame broiled...
Speaking of flame-broiled, what a disappointment the Burger King Texas Double Whopper is. It's just a friggin' regular Whopper with double meat, double cheese, and jalape�o peppers. So very disappointing, indeed.
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"Although I don't think Baloo, Hobbes, Matrix, and Toadkiller (dispite the name) feel that they are war mongering murders."
I'm not claiming they are. Nor am I claiming that everyone who joins the military is looking to kill some "damn for'ners". I was just saying that the government has established a reputation for using the military for primarily unjust purposes, and it tends to make us look bad as a country.
Of course, my original statement was intended to be mainly sardonic, though, when you think about it, doesn't it seem strange that our military has killed so many innocent people over the years and we hardly acknowledge the fact, while we actually have a holidy to celebrate the people who killed them?
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I won't argue the POV of the Gov't, since it seems to be right on track, but I was hoping, as 359 suggested, to have a nice little thread acknowledging those that have and are serving in the military.
The fact that many innocent people have died at the military's hand, as mistakes or not, has little bearing, on the thousands that have served without killing anyone. Do you blame your hubcaps when you service engine light comes on?
Instead of focusing on the deaths caused by the military look at the lives saved by the works of the Air Force Para Rescue, and the medics and corpsmen from the Army and Navy, or even the combat troops that served in NYC after 9-11....
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Here's a thought for you: acknowledge BOTH the lives saved by and the lives lost through military action, or don't acknowledge at all. Or is that too much to ask?
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quote:Originally posted by Cartman: Here's a thought for you: acknowledge BOTH the lives saved by and the lives lost through military action (or inaction TK), ....
Yes - I would agree, and there will always be both lives saved and lives lost. Hopefully, we (as a species) will eventually learn to act in a manner that minimizes the losses.
Oh, and Hobbes - as the resident preventive medicine guy, just let me know where I need to mail those condoms....or the meds.....
Thanks Ritten.
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"The fact that many innocent people have died at the military's hand, as mistakes or not, has little bearing, on the thousands that have served without killing anyone. Do you blame your hubcaps when you service engine light comes on?"
Of course not. My point was what Cartman said. You have to give equal time. Don't say "yay, us!" while sweeping all the bad stuff under the carpet.
Pretend I said something exceedingly witty regarding carpet bombs to go with that "sweeping under the carpet" bit, since I couldn't actually think of anything that wouldn't sound stupid.
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Carpet bombs are made by Raid, to remove pesky fleas and other mini vermin....
I do think about those killed that shouldn't have been, that is one of the reasons I do not, and will not own a weapon of any sort, I know the damage that can be done, both to the intended target and un-intended.....
Welcome Toadkiller.
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Yes, as a veteran of the Cola Wars, I must thank all those who serve in the armed forces.
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quote:Originally posted by Ritten: Five years ago.....
Thanks to my fellow Vets.
dOES THIS Thread quailify us for Necromany Thread Benifits? or whores?
Didn't get any when i was deployed in the gulf last winter/spring... *shrug*
Yeah. Am i a Vet? sure... am i better than all those slobs in the Army taking the dirt naps while my boat floated relativily safe on the waters (besides the fact we're usually in the crosshairs of all those happy christians in Iran)?
uh.... fuck no. When i look at the occational Army or AF folk running around at the NEX in thier digitals, i'm reminded of how LUCKY we all are... 'cause there is always someone doing a even more thankless and painful job than you (that's a slap to all you Paris Hilton Bitches out there)...
am i a Vet? Yes, i am. Do i feel pride in my fellow servicefolk, from the most annoying supervisor to the most missed former lover?? Fuck yeah...
Now go huggle yer loved ones!
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More importantly, the 95th birthday of Woodrow Wilson Smith. And many, many, MANYmanymanymanymanymanymany returns of the day.
Many.
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