It'll be interesting to see who's fault it was. Wonder if whoever's fault it actually was will apologise to the others. I doubt it...
..And of course we get to sit through the panicked 'could it happen here' features (copyright all channels) on the news. Turns out the answer is yes but at least we have the French to back us up.
Which is really reassuring.
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phase one of my plan is complete. moving on to phase two. canucks shall rule the earth.
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quote:Originally posted by Mucus: OK. So that was less than fun. Mucus <= GTA control room network admin Oh well, at least we get overtime.
GTA- Greater Toronto Area.
It actually wasn't the funnest of events. Just imagine trying to get home from the downtown core, with no subway. Just taking buses alone took over four hours for me to get back to my place.
As of this moment, it is still without power. Across the street there is, possibly due to a hospital within that area. I'm staying at my parent's place for the time being (which now has power), making sure to bring all my refrigerated perishables with me. I heard that the area I'm in may not be fully restored by Monday as it is in an older area with older power lines.
It's good to be in air conditioning. Especially with the weather the way it is.
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Ok, according to my step father who works for Rochester Gas And Electric this is what happened.
Someone in a Canadian power plant attempted to bring an generator online without going through the proper startup latching/synch procedure and it took the entire grid down.
Again.
Just like in 1965.
...those who ignore history...
Anyway... No one is going to take the blame for this due to the lawsuit factor. My money is on "We'll never know for certain what happened" being the official answer.
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Ok, so this will be a less than descriptive post. I'm not entirely sure if they'll be rolling blackouts through my home, and more importantly I'm heck tired. And I'm still only a Waterloo co-op student, working at a control room for the GTA. Heck of a learning experience. Good for the resume (knows what to kill/restart/setup in case of total power failure) In short, when the power cut out and we switched to a number of UPS systems, we had to quickly kill all nonessential systems, so to preserve the older basic functionally. (So that operators don't have to phone around and operate switches and breakers "manually"....or at least less so in this case) Then turn everything back on in a controlled manner. (and pray that power fluctuations didn't harm servers while the UPS was bypassed)
Minutaman: In fact the Niagara region was relatively unaffected.. Beck (hydraulic at Niagara) accounted for a quarter(!) of the power generation in the province when we first got systems back up.
Assorted: In this situation, it doesn't really matter who depends on who for generation. Yes, Ontario was importing power but the real problem cascades through the transmission lines. i.e. Generating lots of power doesn't do much if the grid is down, and if that going down doesn't take down the generator, having a generator up with no grid is actually bad. (Sorry to be less than technical, I'm just in CS....the electrical engineers at work were having a fun time explaining stuff...trying) Nuclear reactors are the worst for us. If they don't shutdown properly, they poison out, and it takes upwards of 40 hours to clear them and bring them back up to full. i.e. Pickering (No magic on/off switch)
Finally, no we don't really know why. Since co-op students weren't among those reasigned to shift work over the weekend, we'll find out the same time most of you will. And no, co-op students don't have much sway with hiring (You know who you are)
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Mucus: you're staying in Toronto? Maybe we should hook up soon.
But perhaps it will have to wait until the subway is back up and running. Give me a shout on PM, wouldja?
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quote:Originally posted by Styrofoaman: Ok, according to my step father who works for Rochester Gas And Electric this is what happened.
Someone in a Canadian power plant attempted to bring an generator online without going through the proper startup latching/synch procedure and it took the entire grid down.
Uh, not to sound petty and nationalistic, but no.
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They're also apparently playing "Blame Canada" on some US radio stations. Without irony.
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Ah yes, the whole "Blame Canada" bit.
Terrorists strike on 9/11. America Blames Canada for letting them in.
Power Blackout occurs. Ontario has not embraced the proper ways of privatizing electricity. Blame Canada.
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quote:Originally posted by Lee: I'm amazed no-one has thought to check where Red Squad were last night. . .
Actually, I did think of that. But President Bush is already in power and has set up the Department of Homeland Security. Therefore, the coup has already happened, and setting up another scapegoat is unnecessary. (One would hope, anyway.)
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(note my avoidance of a damn dirty lying liar Canadian news source)
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