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Lee
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Sometimes it's system, sometimes it's the system32 directory. But, yeah, doing a search for 'hosts' should turn it up.

. . . Except I don't seem to have one at all on this laptop, just hosts.sam. Odd. But then the build they use at the place I'm working is weird anyway.

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TSN
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Well, when I said "Windows system directory", I didn't necessarily mean the one called "system". I just meant whatever directory the system files were in on the individual computer in question.
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Fabrux
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You know the weird thing is that sometimes when I mis-type a URL I get the usual page not found message but other times I get the MSN search-thingy. I put in a random string of letters into the address bar just now at my uni and got the usual 404 page.

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MinutiaeMan
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I came back home last night because school was cancelled for the rest of the week due to the hurricane, and in browsing around this afternoon, it seems that Comcast has already implemented the BIND patch that I mentioned above -- when I try to access the same "startrkrenaissance.com" domain that I tested yesterday morning at the university, I now get the usual "could not locate server" message.

That would be nice if it were true, and not just due to some other change that I haven't figured out. [Smile]

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Alshrim Dax
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i don't see how this will work!
The Root Servers on the internet are not controlled by VeriSign, or previously Network Solutions! For this to work, VeriSign would have to have an IP 'A' entry on every Root Server on the Internet .. and they would have to partner with EVERY SINGLE Web-Provider out there to resolve mistyped addresses under there domain to their redirector...

*shakes head* i just don't see this happening.

For Instance... if you have a website on Geocities - and mistype the domain name... a geocities page will pop up and say the page yer looking for is unavailable... verisign would have to tell Geocities.. "Ok.. redirect that to our spam page!"

This is virtually impossible.. I think we'll see Error 404 or 500's only [Wink]

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MinutiaeMan
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The domain name and the file location are two separate things. Compare these two:
  1. http://www.geocitiies.com/Area51/
  2. http://www.geocities.com/Area511/
Number (1) is a misspelled domain name, which is the "dotcom" part of a URL. Number (2) is a correct domain name, but a bad file location.

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Austin Powers
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Well, thank god that most of my typos occur while trying to type some .de address. And as the problem only concerns .com and .net Domains, I can live with it.

I just tried www.desifer.com to test the method, and I really ended up at Verisign. Great thing to have bookmarks... [Wink]

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Harry
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Some good news:

VeriSign sued over Web address 'hijacking' @ ZDNet UK

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Alshrim Dax
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Yes MM - I understand that, and I see your point.. but i just can't see how Verisign can be completely successful.

They may hold all the domain names.. but they do not control the root servers throughout the world!

For instance .. I have a domain name - and I control where my domain name resolves (DNS Name servers). These entries are held on the root servers in Scotland - cuz that's where my domain name sits! This info is then propogated throughout the world on 100's of other root servers in the US, UK, Australia, Russia, and throughout Europe. SO when you type out my domain name... and have a spelling error... the root servers return the 404 message, that it cannot be found! In order for Verisign's thingy to work.. they would have to have an entry on EVERY ROOT SERVER that *.com that is unresolved is mapped to their IP!

Carriers wouldn't do that ! I just can't see it happening. Every web-carrier in the world would have to partner with VeriSign..

Verisign can try all they want to do this.. but they would not be entirely successful.. too much would have to happen.

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Cartman
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"When did that start appearing, eh?"

When you dl'ed IE 5.x/6, probably. Do you want to know more?

"but they do not control the root servers throughout the world!"

VS runs four or five of them, enough to be a... nuisance.

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MinutiaeMan
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quote:
Originally posted by Alshrim:
Carriers wouldn't do that ! I just can't see it happening. Every web-carrier in the world would have to partner with VeriSign..

Verisign can try all they want to do this.. but they would not be entirely successful.. too much would have to happen.

You're not reading things carefully enough. That is EXACTLY what VeriSign has done, but creating a "wild card" address that redirects unresolved domains to the SiteFinder. And the rest of the world has nothing to say about it, because VeriSign has sole and absolute control over all .com and .net domains.

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MinutiaeMan
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Just saw an article stating that VeriSign is finally decided that it's pissed enough people off, and is taking down the Site Finder.

http://www.wired.com/news/business/0,1367,60682,00.html

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AndrewR
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quote:
Originally posted by Harry:
And even worser than that, by mistyping...

Ahhhh the irony.

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Ritten
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I like the typos that take you to a porn site instead of the one you wanted, did that with anglefire before....

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