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I'm not offended by it. I was just pointing out that, well, it's a shit comment. If you're trying to imply that Mac people are smarter and classier, then you're shooting yourself in the foot. The biggest twats are the people who walk around announcing their possessions. Quality speaks for itself, as the car advert goes.
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I suppose I see what you're saying, Liam... but I don't exactly agree. As I see it, if you use a good product, you tell people about it and encourage them to use it too. It's like seeing a good movie -- you tell your friends about it. (Yeah, some Mac people definitely overdo it.... )
And I'm not implying that Mac people are smarter just because they use a different product from other people. I just have the opinion that we've got better tools, that's all.
I guess I should've just thought more about the connotations considering my previous aggressive pro-Mac exhortations.
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Disclaimer - I own a couple of Mac's and happen to really like OS X.
But I also use Windows on a daily basis. I work for the US government so we're still using Win 2000, but I've used XP too. My comment, and I think this was what MM was trying to get at, is that this virtually total lack of security in the MS OS's has gotten totally out of hand. My section of the government is about 150 people and we have about 5% of that fore dedicated to keeping the computers "secure" and running. That seems like to much and I wonder if a different OS environment wouldn't end up saving us money.
I'm NOT saying Macs neccesarily, but it would be an option. A linux option might be cheaper, but the cost of workstations isn't to big of deal since we turn them over silly-fast anyhow.
To address the actual topic.
Shame, shame on you for "borrowing" that software!!
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Linux isn't all that great either. It's hideously unfriendly to novice users, and requires a lot of time to learn and use effectively. And the worst thing, IMHO, is the complete lack of any standards. No standard shortcut keys, no standard interfaces.
But maybe that's because I'm a spoiled Windows user.
quote:Originally posted by MinutiaeMan: Or is my sig really that offensive? I figured it'd just be a fun joke...
Yes, you are right MM, Macs are a joke.....
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This is slightly at a tangent, but the future is either open source or darkest tyranny. To the ramparts! Etc. I wish I could really have convictions.
quote:Originally posted by Toadkiller: That seems like to much and I wonder if a different OS environment wouldn't end up saving us money.
I'm not overly convinced by that. Part of the reason Windows seems to have so many security holes is because every hacker and his dog spends their time finding and exploiting them. There's less reason to do that for Macs and Linux because far, far less people use them, so there's less to be gained by hacking them.
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quote:I'm not overly convinced by that. Part of the reason Windows seems to have so many security holes is because every hacker and his dog spends their time finding and exploiting them. There's less reason to do that for Macs and Linux because far, far less people use them, so there's less to be gained by hacking them.
Personally, I'm not convinced of that, and I've read a few articles that argue similar lines. "Security through obscurity" is mainly a myth, for one important reason: finding a security hole is much different from actually exploiting it.
For instance, just recently someone discovered an important "buffer overflow" hole in Mac OS X. (Yes, that's right, a security hole like that in OS X.) However, that hole is not easily exploitable because of the internal architecture of OS X -- simply loading a virus or trojan horse application remotely does not give it the authority to perform all the dirty work necessary to spread around the Internet. So while there are holes, they're almost always simply too "small" to exploit effectively, or else too impractical (e.g. someone needs to physically sit at the computer to exploit it).
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Oh, and one other thing: Apple achieved a three day turnaround on this buffer overflow flaw: it was announced by a third party developer on the 16th, and Apple released a security update last night, on the 19th.
Speediness is also an important factor.
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