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I think they have to go with Soviets- Goldeneye did a great job of bringing Bond into the post- Soviet era, but modern bad-guys just....suck. Today, everyone's in it for money or they are fanatics.
At least the Soviets could be in it for Bond's own reasons- patriotism, hot chicks, cool gadgets and the chance to remnorselessly kill someone that gets in your way....and make a witty quip about it after.
Plus, if they set the movie back in the 60's, they can use Felix Lighter (bond's old pal from the CIA in Connery's run). I thought he was a cool supporting character.
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During Brosnan's run, I swear that the guy played by Joe Don Baker (big guy, cowboy hat) was the new Felix, but I guess not. His character's name was Jack Wade. But he did seem to be playing the same role as Felix. (Interesting that he also played one of the Bond bad guys in "The Living Daylights".)
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I liked seeing Mr. Blonde in Die Another Day.
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quote:he did seem to be playing the same role as Felix. (Interesting that he also played one of the Bond bad guys in "The Living Daylights".)
That was one of the stupidest things the Bond administration ever did. Not to mention introducing a "comic relief" character 90% into the movie, like anyone laughs at "Jimbo instead of James" wisecracks except children and the elderly.
Funny also, back in 1981 when Roger Moore kicked a bad guy's car off a cliff in "For your eyes only", people thought he was cruel and deliberate in his use of his "license to kill", and again in "Spy who loved me" when he emptied a whole clip into an unarmed Stromberg.
Nowadays that debate is all gone and people cheer when Brosnan puts a helpless media mogul under a large drilling crown to slowly turn him into roast beef. Classy. Halle Berry's contribution was even worse, shooting a doctor in the face and joking about it, then stabbing a girl in the chest with a broadsword and calling her "bitch" during her enemy's last, terrified and blood-gurgling breaths. Who's the bad guy again??
I hope this new Bond restores some dignity to the franchise, like most people seem to think Nolan did to Batman.
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Actually, it wasn't the first example of re-using actors. Charles Gray appeared as a British agent in You Only Live Twice, and again two films later as Blofeld in Diamonds Are Forever. Maud Adams appeared as erstwhile Scaramanga babe in The Man with the Golden Gun, and as main love interest in Octopussy. Gray's first role is eminently forgetable, so seeing him in the second is excusable; but Adams shagged Bond in each role!
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Alright. I still maintain, though, that Joedon Baker was a stupid character in both incarnations. He wasn't even BadGuy enough to get properly killed by Dalton, he just made some statue fall on him or something. For all we know, Jedi Baker was put under the influence of mind-altering drugs and made to work for the good guys. Gasp! Sometimes I impress at least myself!
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Anything with JoDon Baker is bound to be great...er crap!.
CRAP I SAY!
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I've only sat through one of the Dalton movies, but it was bad. Not quite as horrible as Moonraker (the Threshold of Bond movies) but bad.
Drug dealers with a pet Great white shark that bites off the legs of Bond's pal? Yeaaaah....that's bad.
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But Licence to Kill (the film you refer to) had Wayne Newton, so it can't be all bad!
Seriously, The Living Daylights is the better of the two Dalton films; Licence to Kill was too ludicrous to be really good (though that tanker chase was great).
quote:Originally posted by Veers: But Licence to Kill (the film you refer to) had Wayne Newton, so it can't be all bad!
Seriously, The Living Daylights is the better of the two Dalton films; Licence to Kill was too ludicrous to be really good (though that tanker chase was great).
As I recall, Bond's D.E.A agent pal is getting married (to a typical Bond-ish super babe), drug dealers crash the party, feed his legs to a Great white shark that is in a nearby tank, his new bride gets killed, Bond goes all out for revenge in a bad Chuck Norris imitation and then...the movie ends with Bond shaking hands with his hospitalized and VERY UPBEAT, now-crippled widower pal. Mabye it's the unending I.V. of morphine his pal will subsist on for the rest of his diminished, traumatized life that keeps him so Ned Flanders chipper.
Yet....it's still nowhere near as bad as Moonraker. I cant even laugh at that....thing.
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Hey, Joe Don Baker was in Edge of Darkness. OK, he was annoying and crap in it, but I dispute the contention that anything he's in is crap by association.
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Allright- even bad actors can be in good movies. Fuck, Halle Berry won an Oscar!
Go rent the MST3K episode Mitchell! Holy crap, you'll pee yourself laughing.
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I still rank "Never say never again" as a Bond movie and that takes the top slot for worst Bond-movie, for me. Watching a grey-haired Connery push his face onto Kim Basinger's on that dance floor, with Connery wearing starched senior citizen's pants and suspenders, that was the shark jump.
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