quote:Originally posted by WizArtist II: Nobility? Mercy? Love? I know these seem to be rapidly disappearing qualities, but they DO still exist.
Greed! Anger! Lust!
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quote:Originally posted by WizArtist II: Nobility? Mercy? Love? I know these seem to be rapidly disappearing qualities, but they DO still exist.
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The latter two are covered by altruism in animals, nobility could probably use a better definition or at least a definition of what is considered "honourable" or "moral."
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Is it not honourable for the fox to raid the hen house? For the fox it is.
Is it not honourable for the panther to quietly stalk it prey? For the panther, or other felines, it is.
It is like when people say the pet can act so human like. Don't they mean humans can act like their pet? Going back to the fox, is it sly or clever like a human?
It isn't our opposable thumbs that have done much for us, it is our concepts of what we think is right and wrong, nothing more.
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While you may indeed point to instances of these ideals appearing in the animal kingdom, can you point to any one particular species other than humanity that can so easily display ALL of them?
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A creature noble in it's instincts to survive while trying to avoid the scourge of humanity, while noble humans continue to eat away at their habitats. Shows mercy when the other wolves or creatures turn tail and run, while humans have shown the mercy of gunning people down that were running from them, just for a few dollars in a cash register. The instinct to protect ones offspring is an unconditional love where a wolf will fight off any and all predators, or die doing it, trying to eat her young, but our Mrs. Smith parked her car full of kids in a lake.
Humans have an air of nobility and/or self righteousness while launching attacks on other nations because they have felt it was their right.
Humans have shown mercy as the example I have pointed out above, or, killing people for being in a different ethnic group, colour, religion, or because they have something we think we want or need.
Love is like mercy, for we love things more than we do each other.
Humans can display all three, and their mirror images, which is what makes us such a nasty beast. You won't see an animal break in to another's den to steal a stereo so they can sell it for money for drugs.
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(This seems a little silly. Obviously(?) consciousness and the whole scheme of mental actions therein described are located on a continuum encompassing, say, planaria and people. And it is equally obvious that much of human behavior is unique to the species. ((For instance, slightly pretentious message board posts like this one.)))
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That was my point - we're not special. There's no "line in the sand" beyond which you're a human. Every quality we think is special is a point on a continuum.
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Sol, why does your post make me think of Shakespeare and monkeys?
Other than that I have to think this is a bit more than a little silly, although, in our defense, we do need, in our uniquely human behaviour, something to babble on about in the absence newly designed lego castles, bits and pieces lightsabers, pencil sharp derby racers, decay, death, and other Flarite endeavors.
Dan, what about K?
On the minus side Omega and First have not rendered their opines on this subject.
After proofing this a bit it seems some of this post could be construed as being slightly sarcastic, even though no sarcasm is intended.
Just to move on I concede to Wiz. Someone start a new thread.
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quote:Originally posted by Ritten:
Just to move on I concede to Wiz. Someone start a new thread.
OH MY GOD!
I actually WIN one? Now I KNOW the universe is about to come to an end.
So, I guess I've been filling the shoes of Omega and First? It would seem that I have now become firmly entrenched in the far right. Perhaps I should start the requested new thread as "Ritten Capitulates to Wiz". Whereupon I would naturally assume that I would immediately receive the "Hiroshima Treatment"
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SPECIAL K! I just freaking got it. And my mom eats a box of that nasty shit a week. With those disgustingly tart freeze-dried strawberried.
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(This is a little silly. But I'm just trying to point out practically why biologists do not (anymore) classify species using a grab-bag of poorly defined characteristics )
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